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1.2 Trillion $ Carbon Tax, Al Gores next move?

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Come on people, can you see the big picture now, it is all about money and power. Do you think another tax on the American people will help the Gobal Warming (Myth?) Al Gore is pushing for this carbon tax in June.

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  1. how about al gore starts doing what he tells us about and what we should do


  2. Actually the link you provide seriously underestimates the cost of that bill. According to the EPA's estimates, s.2191 Lieberman-Warner Climate Act may cost the economy as much as $2.856 Trillion a year by 2050. Assuming China doesn't go along what would be the result? We'd kill the few manufacturing jobs we have left, sending them to China and India which will not be subject to this bill, increase the cost of our energy when it's already thru the roof, and ultimately devastate our economy. And without China and India following suit, CO2 emissions will dramatically increase anyway. Talk about a Pyrhhic victory.

    Speaking of tinfoil hats and long lists of those who now subscribe to AGW is not a convincing argument. The fact is that there has been no debate about AGW, the IPCC has never considered that it isn't real and a problem it's parent organization must be allowed to solve for us all. There was warming but it had nothing to do with CO2, CO2 rose as a result of the warming, it wasn't the cause of it.

    Obviously we need certain elites to tell the rest of us what to do and what to think. How inconvenient that some of us are not willing to let that happen.

  3. Think these guys get their science from Al Gore?  They all say global warming is real, and mostly caused by us.

    The National Academy of Sciences, the American Association for the Advancement of Science, the American Institute of Physics, the American Chemical Society, the American Geophysical Union, the American Meteorological Association, etc.

    As do these people:

    "Former Republican House Speaker Newt Gingrich challenged fellow conservatives to stop resisting scientific evidence of global warming"

    "National Review (the most prestigious conservative magazine) published a cover story calling on conservatives to shake off denial and get into the climate policy debate"

    "Pat Robertson (very conservative Christian leader) 'It is getting hotter and the ice caps are melting and there is a build up of carbon dioxide in the air.  We really need to do something on fossil fuels.”

    "I believe there is now more than enough evidence of climate change to warrant an immediate and comprehensive - but considered - response. Anyone who disagrees is, in my view, still in denial."

    Ford Motor Company CEO William Clay Ford, Jr.

    "The science of global warming is clear. We know enough to act now. We must act now."

    James Rogers, CEO of Charlotte-based Duke Energy.

    Global warming is scientific fact.

  4. al gore is an idiot and so are the people who buy into his c**p

  5. Link please?

    How will we survive your totally unsupported claim?  American's global competitiveness will be shattered!  We'll be sent back to the Stone Age!  South Park will only be available in reruns!  American Idol might go off the air (well, that might not be so bad...)!

    Edit -

    OK, here's what they say:

    "We are about to get hit with a $1.2 trillion tax increase all in the name of Al Gore's raxical Climate Alarmist agenda. Grassfire opposes any such tax increase, and what would be the largest expansion of government power in our nation's history through the Lieberman-Warner bill. Grassfire is urging citizens to take immediate action to stop this mad dash that will cost us all dearly. See below for more information and to sign our petition"

    They give absolutely no detail, make a bunch of vague, claims, provide no link to further information on any proposed bill, and people are supposed to put their names on a petition as a result?

    So I decided to see who was behind this attempt to manipulate people but keep them in the dark...

    "FireSociety.com is quickly becoming America's Grassroots Community -- a place where grassroots conservatives can add their input to the debate, chat with other citizens and even launch their own citizen initiatives."

    So who are these clowns?  There is no contact information, no list of executives or directors, just this anonymous, fear-mongering, alarmist Web site.  The propaganda pros are getting sneakier every day.  Surely no one will fall for it though.

    ---

    Anyway, the $1.2T is spread over 10 years, $120B/year, about $400/person per year.

    For comparison, the U.S. military costs about $1.449T... yes, $1,449 B PER YEAR!  

    http://www.warresisters.org/pages/piecha...

    With that money we install dictators (Saddam Hussein) and build military bases (Saudi Arabia) so children and orphans can grow up to be terrorists (so we have a reason to maintain a strong military).  Osama Bin Laden built Al Qaida and attacked the World Trade Center (first with bombs, then airplanes) to protest our base and support of the dictators in Saudi Arabia.  How many tens of thousands of Iraqi orphans will now grow up hating us (so we can have a fresh military threat 10 years from now)?

    Bush's "War of Terror" alone is estimated to cost $200B in FY2009.  Bring our troops home, eliminate that cost, and we can pass the global warming bill and receive a healthy rebate.

  6. so where is that money going to go? to fund al gores private army of penguins? please  take your foil hat off i think your brain is overheating.

  7. Wake up, Al Gore isn't even in office. Stupidity is a virtue with some people.

  8. Wow, that would pay for half of the "war on terror".   Yes, might as well include caring for all those thousands of wounded military personell for the next 60 years.   Never before has this country gone to war and put the bill on the credit card.   Too bad we didn't at least get lower gas prices or air miles for all that wasted money.

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