200bb deep, gutshot straight flush draw on paired board.. Help?

Question

Okay, lets say its a 1/2 game heads up, 400 deep. You are on the button. Its been very agressive and very loose. You guys are both opening around 75% of your hands on the button. Your oppenent defends his bb like 50% of the time, so he has quite a wide range. You have 5s7s. You raise to 6. Oppenent just calls. Flop comes out 9s6s6h. Oppenent checks, you bet 10, he c/rs to 35. Your oppenent has a very wide range here, from a boat, to air. However, if you 3-bet to like 100, and he 4-bets allin you are always behind (his range is now narrowed to boats,overpairs, and betterdraws) . However, you are sure your hand is good against MOST of your oppenents c/r range; just not his 4-bet range. Remember, you have position on this hand, and the board is PAIRED. What do you do?

Answer 1

I would probably call.  My hand has a lot of potential (12 outs to a straight or flush - roughly 48% chance of catching using 4-2 rule).  Pot odds say it's worth calling, but if you miss you're stuck with 7 high, and can only beat a bluff.

Answer 2

fold.    if i actually thought  i was a good player i would stop talking and play....when is that situation going to ever come up...

Answer 3

i think based on your description of the hand that this is a no-brainer 3-bet...considering that he has such a wide range here, you should know that you will be able to pick up this pot with a reraise most of the time, and if he does just call you will have control of the hand as well as position...even if you do get 4-bet here, the only hand you are really crippled against is a full house, and one of the full houses is out as we can safely assume he would re-raise with 9-9 pre-flop...i just don't think there's anything else to this, i would 3-bet it in hopes that he might just throw his hand away or maybe just call it and take the turn card, and if he shoves on us then we'd better be ready to gamble with the hand

Answer 4

First, there is no way in h**l you should be raising with garbage like 5-7s.  EVER.  If you're playing that many hands, you should come play with me.  I'll give you some lessons, and it will only cost you your entire buy-in.

If this situation, there's a decent chance that you're up against either a made full house or a better flush draw.  If you do hit your flush, if he has one too it's 95% that his will be better and you'll lose a huge pot.

Quit playing so many hands, be aggressive when you do get something to play, and don't draw to a baby flush.

Answer 5

I smooth call here.  I have position and you said it's been loose and aggressive.  I just call, I want a see what is he going to do on the turn.  And depending on his action and the card of course, I might decide to fold, raise, of even semi-bluff him.  I feel confident about my hand, I have the pot odds and a a good amount of outs to make my hand.  Like I said I feel confident, bu I'm not crazy about it.

Answer 6

Tough spot.  The only cards that really help you are the four 8s.  if you hit the flush, you have to be afraid of his better flush, and pairing up the 5 or 7 is practically useless.

I wouldn't reraise.  Although there's a chance he'll fold, and also a good chance you'll buy yourself the river card by taking the action away from him, there's also a solid chance you'll get raised back, and then you'll have to fold.  Plus, you're making a huge pot when there's only a small number of 'great' cards for you (pretty much just the four 8s.)

If you can read him after the turn, if he'll make a number of different plays depending on what hits, then I'd call.  You have position on him, so you can still get away from the hand if you need to, and if a flush card hits, hopefully you can get a read on whether you've just made a winner, or just fell under the bus.

If he always follows this kind of raise by going long after the turn card (overbetting the pot, for example, pretty much regardless of card) then I would just fold. It's not worth the $25 to take 1 shot at an inside straight.  And you can't call another $100 if you miss the turn.

Answer 7

Calling seems like the safest move here; call the flop down, if the turn card helps you, jam, if not bail.  And yet I got to thinking about it... what could he have raised you with?  The possibilities are:

- Two overcards.  If you call and the turn comes high, you've given him a free card.  It would be tough for him to make you for a boat at that point (if he has KQ and the turn comes a K, what are the odds that you have KK?), so it would be near impossible for him to lay it down.

- a 9.  Only two pair.  If you have a 6 he's drawing dead, and even if you don't, you could have an overpair or a monster draw (which you do).  Calling gives him the chance to catch a boat or at least a safe card (a non-spade, non-high card) and also gives him a bigger pot to be committed to.

- a draw like yourself.  Again, calling gives him better pot odds and a chance to outdraw whatever you would represent (if you were to have raised).

In all these scenarios, I think it would be an easy laydown for him if he were faced with a big re-raise.  The only real fear here is a 6, possibly an overpair.  Considering how wide his range is and how loose he's playing, I'd say a re-raise is the right move.  If he pushes all in, you can be sure you're up against one of those few hands that you'd have to outdraw to beat.  If not, he's not yet pot committed enough to justify staying in with a weak two pair or a weak draw.  It seems like most times, considering your opponent, you can get him to lay this down.  I don't think it's worth it to just call and fatten up the pot.