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2012. What in the heck will happen?

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I've been collecting end-of-the-world theories just for fun, and I've run into something interesting. Here are a list of all of the events that will (Supposedly) happen in 2012, and usually in December.

1. Nibiru- some giant planet is suppose to come by and jack up are gravity and kill a bunch of people.

2. Galactic Horizon- We're suppose to be passing through this thing which means at this time we will be most strongly affected by the super massive black hole at the center of our galaxy.

3. Solar flares- I've heard that every 11 years solar flares get really bad and can mess up our technology

4. Pole reversal- the electromagnetic field may go down temporarily and then pop back up relocated. In the mean time space will kick our butts because we'll be defenseless.

Any one of these things on their own would sound like Y2K hype to me. But why so many things at once? Are we under a propaganda attack? Any ideas?

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  1. The only one on that list that can really effect us are solar flares. Nibiru doesn't exist, the Galactic plane crossing that one just doesn't make sense and the pole reversal is just plane dumb. Pole reversal would take up to a thousand years to completely occur it wouldn't happen with in a few years.


  2. Speculation and paranoia. Mayan doomsday.

  3. 1. this planet doesn't exist

    2. nonsense

    3. they are convective and therefore as unpredictable as the weather on earth

    4. this again is unpredictable and occurs on the scale of thousands of years

    why so many things at once?

    because people are not properly educated, or ignorant

    also because other people can make royalties from the books they publish

    generally if someone with a phd claims some conspiracy, you will find the phd they were awarded had nothing to do with the subject their conspiracy is involved in.

    2012 is the most hilarious joke I've ever seen, mostly because people believe it.

    If you believe the world will end, then I will buy a contract off you, for £10, for you to give me (2*£10)*the cumulative interest rate. That is, if you think the world will end, you borrow my money now and pay me back double the standard rate when you are proven wrong.

  4. the date is the december solstice in 2012, which cranks and charlatans have decided is somehow significant, since it is the end of a major cycle in the mayan calendar.

    this c**p is all over teh internet. did you just arrive on this planet? :-)

  5. This is the complete 7 reasons.

    http://www.msghelp.net/showthread.php?ti...

    At first, they thought of one reason how the world will end. Then, they think of another reasons and put it in the same date.

    But, don't worry

  6. 1.  As DS said, the "real" Nibiru is Jupiter and it ain't coming our way; not for 2012. not ever.

    The fictitious planet Nibiru came from a weak translation of old Sumerian texts (along with a vivid imagination of the original translator).  With more texts and better translation we now know that the name Nibiru really meant the planet we call Jupiter.

    Still, the translator still believes his legend and has calculated that Nibiru would return in 2085 (or later) at which time the inhabitants would simply come here and claim "their" gold that we are supposed to have dug up for them (we are their slaves, apparently).

    Even this guy is fed up to see how charlatans have hijacked "his" fictitious planet to run it in the Big 2012 Hoax Off.

    2.  It is the Galactic equator.  It is true that the winter solstice position (a position along the ecliptic) will cross the Galactic equator.  It does not line up with the Galactic black hole (it simply can't).  The black hole does not really affect us (except that its mass contributes to the mass of the Galaxy, which controls our Galactic orbit of 200 million years).  There is no special reason why the black hole should care that a microscopic planet around a very ordinary G2 star should line up in 25,000 years (that's how long it would take for the information to get there).

    3.  Yes, there is a maximum of solar activity (sunspots, flares, X-rays, geomagnetic storms) every 11 years.  This means that anyone over the age of 55 has survived five of these already.  How do they do it?  They must have purchased a secret book... (not).

    4.  The electromagnetic field does not go down.  The source of the field is deep down at the interface between the outer core and the inner mantle.  There are, in fact, more than one spot.  A magnetic pole is simply a place on the surface where the field is vertical.  There may be more than two such spots (a few decades ago, when I was teaching this stuff, there were two magnetic poles in the southern hemisphere).

    The field reverses every 700,000 years on average (and we are due). During the reversal it does NOT drop to zero.  We continue to be protected from charged particles (solar wind and cosmic rays).  The magnetic field has (almost) nothing to do with the ozone layer.

    A reversal takes about a thousand years.  We do not know if it has even started yet even though there are some signs (wandering poles, splitting poles); we do know that it had not yet started 20 years ago.

    Not yet started 20 years ago + takes a thousand year = not ready in time for the Big 2012 Hoax Off.

    All of these thing together sound like Y2k (you should have been in the computer filed at the time:  every time we ran out of money to spend on the fake problem, someone invented a new scenario to scare the politicians into spending more money on it).

    Charlatans have books to sell (and videos).  Apparently, we are not buying the books (on how to survive the end-of-the-world) fast enough, so they keep inventing lies in the hope that one of them will scare us enough to spend money on their books.

    Others are doing it because it is fun to scare people (and, for some, it is part of a "mind terrorism" effort -- this would be your propaganda attack).

  7. All of those are feasible possibilities.

  8. I'm not hanging around to experience it- I'll be on one of the motherships with the lightbeing's; exploring the photonic activation of my DNA using the metagene factor, and then saving cosmic royalty (i.e the human Race)! With the rest of my 90% dormant genome switched on!

  9. The answer is none of the above.

    1 Nibiru is fake.  The "real" Nibiru is Jupiter, and its steady in its orbit just fine.

    2. Nonsense.  There's no validity to this whatsoever.  We're the same distance from the black hole as were always are.

    3. The flares MAY increase, but they do this, as you've noted, all the time, and the world didn't end 11 years ago.

    4 Nope, not this either.  The poles DO reverse at times, but this proccess takes at least 1000 years and it doesn;t happen all at once.  No signs one is imminent.

    Yep, it's a hoax attack.  People want to sell their lousy books.  Paranoids want to feel validated.  Crystal-wearing harmonic hippies... are just nuts.

  10. There is no actual scientific theory or evidence that anything unusual is going to happen in 2012. It is a collection of myths and disproven theories being promulgated by doomsday predictors, who predict a new one every few years. The longer explanation is below:

    It is based on the end the current cycle of the Mayan long count calendar. No doomsday was predicted and the Mayan civilization died out.

    Niburu (Planet X) doesn't exist. Zecharia Sitchin is an author of books promoting the ancient astronaut theory for human origins. He attributes the creation of the ancient Sumerian culture to the Annunaki (or Nephilim) from a hypothetical planet named Nibiru in the solar system. The Doomsayers predicted that it was to hit Earth in 2003. When it didn't show up, they just moved it out to 2012 to coincide with the end of the Mayan calendar.

    Galactic Alignment - takes 36 years to precess through galactic equator, we will be 6 degrees off in 2012.

    Asteroid Apophis - the 2001 alert was for 2029, and was canceled after additional observations showed it would not hit us.

    Polar Shift - the magnetic poles are moving all the time. Polar reversal happens over thousands of years.

    Passage through a "photon belt" has been added. This is also untrue and wouldn't hurt us if it were. Photons are merely units of light.

    Solar flares happen all the time and we have more of them at some times than others.  They haven't caused any serious problems in the past.  The direct effects of solar flares are mainly related to communications and radio transmissions.  We had a major series of solar flares in 2005.  Did you notice anything?  I didn't.

  11. in 2012 hopefully you will wake up every morning and everything will be ok in your life and for the days to come. As far as those "world ending" ideas of yours, let them go in one ear and out the other. You have nothing to worry about. Take care!

  12. 1.  Nibiru has never been discovered. Neither has "Planet X."  These are myths perpetrated by people who want attention or see an opportunity to make a few bucks off of the idea.  If such a planet existed in the solar system and was within four years of reaching earth, it would be visible to the naked eye or in modest telescopes.  Astronomers would have discovered it years ago.

    2.  No.  We will not cross the "galactic horizon."  I suppose by this, they mean the galactic equator, but no, that doesn't happen, either, and won't happen for several million years.  Even then, there is no reason to expect any kind of effect.  As far as the central black hole, we orbit the center of the galaxy about 22,000 light years out.  So if we plummeted toward it at the speed of light, it would take 22,000 years to get there.  More stupid myths.

    3. Yes, solar activity increases and decreases on an 11 year cycle.  In 2011, the sun will reach maximum and there will be an increase in solar flares.  Sometimes we do get some mild radio interference from them.  Great auroras, though.

    4. No.  Pole reversal takes thousands of years.  The magnetic poles migrate around very slowly and one wouldn't expect any noticeable change in an entire human lifetime, much less in one year.

    I have a list of 22 predicted disasters which I have collected from questioners on this forum.  Yes, they are all tagging their pet doomsday predictions onto that ridiculous documentary which was aired several times by the History Channel.

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