A Random and Dramatic Conversation That Overheats. Who was in the right and who was in the wrong?

Question

Ok. Who's opinion do you agree with? Number 1 or number 2? What are your thoughts on the overall conversation and topic of the conversation?

Person 1:I hate immigrants that come here and just live off welfare. Thats all they do. What about the single parents out there that need mothers allowance and welfare to keep up.

Person 2: Well, thats not all of them. Plus I mean, it isn't like the people from here 'can't' get a job. They are from here and speak English or French. They can barley speak a language when they get here.

Person 1: Yea but they don't try and do anything. They should be kicked out of here. They friggin' plant tomatoes and other vegetables right in their apartments because they are too cheap to buy food from the store.

Person 2: Yea right.. Give me a break.

Person 1: I am serious man! Me and my mom lived in this place and they did it next door...

PAGE 2

Answer 1

Actually many immigrants become doctors, surgeons, lawyers, and don't plant tomatoes.

I have yet to hear one successful case where somebody can plant something on the ground successfully, since the floors are wood/carpet/etc and won't support much plant life. ^_^;

Person 2 is technically more "correct" from a logical point of view, and immigrants shouldn't be stereotyped in that manner. In fact, most immigrant families have a higher income than the average family within 4 years of their moving to North America.

Also..... what do immigrants and all this have to do with natives? And what's the ratio of the native population vs everybody else? Why would natives band together now to drive off everybody else in the first place? We've all put so much work into building our civilization, can't we all just be one big and multi-cultural culture? T_T

Anyways, I support Number 2 because Number 1 is making unfounded attacks based on incorrect stereotypes!

Answer 2

Sorry shites, the both of you.

Answer 3

I agree with person number two because they know the history and person number one is totally ignorant.  The thought of immigrants coming here to live off of welfare is completely ridiculous.  They come here to make a better life for themselves and their families and people who are "natives" are the lazy bums sitting on their butts all day expecting handouts from the government.

Answer 4

Neither Person 1 or Person 2.  You both sound like idiots.  A debate or argument does not require bad language and personal attacks.

neither one of you argued the facts - which is too bad, because you BOTH have valid points if the were to be entrneched in data.

Answer 5

This is why you shouldnt discuss politics with certain people.  You have to agree to disagree, talk about your opinions without getting offended and realize that you likely will never change the other person's mind.

Neither one of you are in the right.

Beyond that....

The thing about growing your own food in your apartment...   Many people do that everywhere, not just immigrants and its usually not because they are too cheap to buy groceries, but so they can know exactly what chemicals are used in the growing process.  Unless they were loading the dirt right on the floor, thats not gonna hurt the apt.  I mean, do house plants hurt the floor?  And in most cases, growing like that is more expensive than going to the store because of the lighting you have to use since they are indoors.

Answer 6

I dont completely agree with either, but i would have sided with person 2. Not all immigrants just mooch, some work very hard to have a great life. My parents came to the states with nothing but 17 dollars and the clothes on their back, and theyve made a great life of it here. Many immigrants have done the same, and many will continue to do so. Plus it is important to notice that many native citizens sit on their butts all day and mooch off of welfare too. It depends on the persons morals, values, and motivation, not on where they came from.