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A creationist president?

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U.S. is the leading country of the world winning the Nobel Prize in sciences.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_laureates_by_country#United_States_of_America

In no other country of the world, science is more advanced than in the U.S.

It's certainly not impossible that McCain dies in office (he's 72, had cancer twice). In such case, Palin could become president.

Palin is a creationist.

What do you think of the fact that a creationist could become president of the U.S., the country with more Nobel Prizes in sciences than any other country, and the leading country in sciences?

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  1. Palin can't deny state's rights and if states want to vote in abortion, they can. If they want to vote pot legal, they can. States have the right to govern themselves--a fact most Democrats are unaware of.

    Who is president and Vp won't affect you if you elect State officials to do what you want.

    Creationist? What do you mean? So, she believes in GOD....except for BO, don't most Americans, except the Muslims of course, and our wonderful terrorists--who go to MIT and other liberals Ivy league colleges where their actions are condoned and protected by the Jimmy Carter mentality.

    Science vs God--a debate that neither can win--ever!


  2. Not applicable to the job at hand...

    Neither is abortion actually. That's in the hands of John Roberts over at the Supreme Court.

    It's okay Bix, we know you're in the tank for Obama and we're sorry. Can we get you anything? Some koolaid maybe?

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    Oh, you are a rascal! I heard that Obama is in one of his "special" states right now. He's been there ever since he learned about Sarah Palin. The State of Confusion...

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    Not that this really matters in the election category Bix, but I recently went to a debate at Biola, a very Christian college, and watched Darwinists and Creationists debate. Main stream Christianity isn't far off from Darwinism, much to my surprise. The remaining issues are:

    1: No evidence of one species morphing into another

    2: No evidence that the primordial goo coalesed on its own

    The Darwinist conceeded that he didn't have proof either.

    Athiesm is also a religion, since it too is unproven by science.

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    Sunkiss:

    Sorry you lost your parents! I believe you are correct. Melanoma is a genetic alteration of squamous cells, and can become more agressive, for example  becoming adenocarcinomic, but if it's caught in time, it's basically harmless.

  3. It does seem kind of backwards. Does she really believe that Adam and Eve actually existed? I don't want her running my country if she does, because that's simply ignorance. But, McCain can't win anyway, so I'm not worried. I have faith in the common sense of the American people.

  4. To my knowledge, all of our presidents have been creationists or at least appeared to be. For someone to be otherwise they would need to be an atheist and I don't believe that we have ever had an admitted atheist as a president.

    Nobel prizes are over rated, even Al Gore got one!

  5. America has had more Creationist Presidents than any other kind,,,,,,besides, we have a separation of church and State in our country. What world are you living in?

  6. Mike Huckabee was also a creationist.  I voted for him in the primary despite that idiotic belief.

    People who are brainwashed from childhood in fundamentalist churches can often be convinced that God created the world in seven days, that Jesus' mother was a virgin and he turned water into wine.

    They believe that if they don't believe Jesus is divine,

    they will get no free drinks when he is making the wine.

    A brainwashed Christian, however, can also have good judgment on matters on which he has not been brainwashed.  Both Huckabee and Palin have incicated that they only have a blind spot in their religious beliefs, and do not argue that 2 X 2 =3

  7. Dude, I'm inclined to give an answer that supports you, but can you please provide a link to support that Palin is a "creationist?"  Do you mean that she believes the earth, and mankind were all created, like 5,000 years ago, and men co-existed with dinosaurs?  Give me a link where she states this belief, and I will get back to you on your question, in that case.

    I just want to say to "Little Rascal," who equates a single, simple misstatement by Obama, with Palin's entire belief system:

    Who hasn't committed some sort  of verbal slip, or Spoonerism or misstatement? Or even transposed numbers in their phone number when giving it to someone?  Bush himself is now the undisputed champion of "foot-in-mouth" disease, there are entire books and web-sites devoted to the subject.

    A few that stand out (because of the truths that come out in the slips), of the things said by George W. Bush:

    “You can fool some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on.”

    “Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”

    “There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee...that says, fool me once, shame on...shame on you. Fool me...you can't get fooled again.”

    “Most imports are from outside of the country”

    “The thing that's wrong with the French is that they don't have a word for entrepreneur”

    “One of the great things about books is sometimes there are some fantastic pictures.”

    “It's clearly a budget. It's got a lot of numbers in it.”

    "See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda."

    Now, I'm guessing "LittleRascal" never concerned himself with any of these "misstatements," which are only the tip of the iceberg... or stopped to think that maybe Obama, who got into Harvard on a scholarship, and who has succeeded in becoming a major party's nominee for president, actually DOES know how many states there are, in spite of what verbal slip may have come out of his mouth once, after many grueling months of campaigning all over the nation...

    [EDIT: "LittleRascal" has deleted his answer, in shame, no doubt.  He said that he was more concerned about Obama once misstating the number of states in the union,  than he was about Palin possibly being a literal 'creationist.']

    As to having a vice president who takes a literal view of the scriptures, as opposed to a symbolic and mythological one... (mythology, symbolism and ritual have been part of the human experience since the dawn of humanity, after all... read anything by Joseph Campbell)

    I mean, if she really believes that humans co-existed with dinosaurs, or that dinosaur bones were put on Earth to "test our faith," well, then, h**l, yes I would be worried about that, but you need to provide a source which indicates that she actually believes this, in all fairness and honesty, and doesn't take a more metaphorical view of things, which is possible, unless she has specifically stated otherwise.

    I have read interesting symbolic interpretations of Bible stories like Adam and Eve, for example, in which Adam and Eve did not represent "man" and "woman" in general, but each person's spiritual vs. material aspects... this same interpreter says "seven days" does not mean seven literal days, but symbolically "an indefinite period of time..."

    Metaphysical musings aside, perhaps the best thing to do with the Palin selection is not to focus on her, but to focus on the fact that McCain chose her after having only met her once or twice, and what does this say about *his* judgment... McCain is at the top of the ticket after all...

    There are other, much more compelling reasons to be wary of Palin as a candidate, other than her religious beliefs, such as her lack of national and international experience...

    Sarah Palin as political landmine

    http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/11374.ht...

    EDIT:  Thanks for the video link, but it didn't do it for me... she says "teach both," which to me doesn't seem as extremist as other so-called "creationists" out there, the ones who make museums showing humans riding around on dinosaurs, and whatnot...

    The poet said "Argue not concerning God..."  Everyone has a different concept of what the word means, even if your concept is that ANY interpretation of what "God" means is invalid, that is still your personal concept.  Indeed even the so-called "godless liberals," if you would believe Ann Coulter, invoked God's name many times during the Democratic Party convention (see the latest 'Colbert Report' for exerpts)...  Republicans do NOT have a monopoly on religious concepts, ...

    ...and everyone has their own different belief system, too (so you can say that everyone has their own "religion," because that is what a belief system is, in the end....a strong, personal, self-reinforcing thing, hence 6 billion 'religions' in the world)...

    NONE of this should have anything to do with leading the country, in my opinion, and the original idea of 'separation of church and state' was therefore, a good one...

    God have mercy on us all, lol, cause he or she or it has no reason lately to 'bless' us...

  8. I don't find it any more disconcerting than Obamas 57 States remark.

    @don't know:  Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm still here. With your 4,000 word response you probably "missed' me.  My comment about 57 States, was singular reference to a "creationist" as VP.  In fact, it was not a slip of Obamas "tongue" from a long hard campaign. But you don't really care anyway, so it's just MY personal opinion. Adios.

  9. I think that's scary.  You know what turned me off about creationist?  In high school there was a girl that convinced me to come to church w/ her while her father preached creationism.  That girl was the meanest kid I had ever met...  Maybe that doesn't answer your question, but I tend to lump creationist into one group; like that girl in High School.

  10. more presidents than not were creationists, from Washington through Bush 43. Look them up, see what their belief system is and you will see with few exception, they are all creationists.

    Secondly, science can not disprove creation. Given that a vast majority of Americans are Christian, and even the ones who are not, but are of any of the major religions, all believe in creationism. it's lunacy to think that everything started out of nowhere, unprovoked, just poof, there it is. Science can not prove the big bang started on its own. Something had to start it.

    Not to mention really, does it matter that someone believes or doesn't believe in creationism?  

    Or do you think it's wiser to believe murdering babies is okay? Or that they believe befriending terrorists is okay? or that handing millions of dollars to your cronies in failed Illinois politics real estate schemes is okay? Or being a racist is okay? If all these things are the right thing to believe in, then vote Obama and leave the sane that remain to vote for McCain.

    MCCAIN/PALIN '08

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