A lot of men on here say we should "celebrate the difference" between men and women instead of having equal? ?

Question

Rights. How should that be done?

Answer 1

They're going to "celebrate" the difference by expecting their wives to work 40 hours a week and still cook the celebratory dinner.

Answer 2

Instead let's start with terminating all s*x specific laws and policies.

Answer 3

Men and women ARE different! But just because we are different doesn't mean we cant have equal rights. How should it be done? It is being done! Feminist are just not satisfied with equal rights, they want special rights. Women complain about the wage gap, well have they ever considered that they might not be equally qualified for the job as the guy next to them? I know alot of women that make just as much if not more then their husbands doing much easier jobs. The feminist's claims just don't hold up in the real world. I can tell you that I am (my family and friends) ARE the average Americans. What I see is that women are getting treated with special consideration in every circumstance of everyday life. What are the feminist complaining about?

Answer 4

All the women get together and bake a HUGE chocolate with cream cheese icing cake for the men.  While they hang out in the backyard shooting small animals and drinking beer.

After the cake the men will go hit the bar, and the women will clean the kitchen and talk!

Then the men come home from the bar upset b/c they couldnt find anyone to sleep with and will tell horrible pick up lines and do stupid things (like drive fast cars and flex arm muscles) to try and get the women to sleep with them.   The women disgusted with it all of course wont...and there you get the "women dont like s*x" issue.  The women will confiscate the beds as the men smell, and the guys will happy watch p**n on the couch till they pass out

Yaaaaaaaa!

Answer 5

Well, we have obvious biological differences, which doesn't mean women and men are "naturally" gifted for some tasks.

Answer 6

not all men think this way,btw you are the ones saying you want equality in one but you say we are different when it comes to other things,so dont play innocent.

Answer 7

I have never heard a man say that.

What I have heard is "Let's get rid of sexist laws and biases AND celebrate our differences".

Well, I guess I heard what they said because I listen......

Answer 8

Ok let's break this down

There are equal rights, same rights and "fairness in rights".

Same rights mean regardless of any differences even if they affect the applicability of the right we have the same rights. So even if a man doesn't have a uterus he has the same reproductive rights as a woman. Not many rational people advocate this

Next equal rights means that everyone is enfranchised based on anything that is applicable to them. So the VAWA is not equal rights simply because men should have the exact same too since DV does apply to them.

Finally "fairness in rights" means that people get rights according to their specific circumstances. So this means the VAWA could be perfectly legitimate since men can do more harm than women. See the distinctions?

So to sum up it depends what you want. IF you want equal rights you have to accept that regardless of men being able to harm you more you must give them the exact same rights you have for EVERYTHING that is applicable to them. So VAWA, child custody

IF you want fairness in rights you can use cost-benefit analysis to decide what rights each person/group should have based on their circumstances

An anology would be equal rights are equitable (fair) because everyone gets to start the race at the same line

Fairness in rights ironically is inequitable (unfair) because everyone will start the race at different points based on their "differences"

I personally want equal rights so everyone starts at the same line and ALL applicable rights to men and women are the same. Child custody, Domestic violence.. you name it

It's the only way to actually be fair.

So yep I'm still waiting for those equal rights lol

Answer 9

How about we have differences but should be equal just the same.

Answer 10

I've always said something similar to this. I think you doctored up the statement a bit to appease your self-serving agenda, by making an indefensible statement.

Most men that I know including myself are all for equal rights when it comes to women. However, the feminist agenda has taken the sentiment further and would have its sheep believe men and women are the same. Instead of recognizing and respecting each other's differences, traditional female values are looked down upon even if they have substance in a woman's life. Looking for inequalities that don't actually exist.  

Answer 11

Because -- DUH !!! -- men and women are clearly NOT equal.  They are "equivalent".  There is a HUGE difference.  With the Olympics occupying the much of the world news right now, it makes a perfect backdrop to illustrate this point.

Suppose we took all the olympic events and combined the men's and women's competitions so that there is no regard to gender.  Consider the impact of that change to the competition in each of the following events . . .

Uneven parallel bars

"Clean and jerk" weightlifting

Balance beam

Gymnastic rings

Would there be any change?  No!!!  Why not?  Because men and women are different, and these events celebrate those differences!  Women are not better than or worse than men; but neither are they the same as men.  We should appreciate the fact that women (as an averaged group) tend toward being able to achieve much better balance and grace than men, but men (as an averaged group) tend toward being able to achieve much more strength than women.  There is nothing wrong or bad about this.

The focus should not be on "equality" because "equality" is a myth.  The focus should be upon recognizing the differences, and *valuing* both groups equally.

I have no problem abandoning traditional gender roles.  But the fact of the matter is that certain traits lend themselves better for fulfilling certain roles.  For instance, my wife is better at nurturing when one of our daughters gets hurt (either physically or emotionally).  I am better at coaching and disciplining.  But are both great in the kitchen; she bakes better but I edge her out slightly on the range top and grill.  She does the vacuuming and dusting because they wreak havoc with my dust allergies, so I do the dishes and laundry.  She does the gardening because she wants to (I don't care whether we have flowers out front or not), but when any physically demanding stuff needs to be done, I'm on the hook because I am so much stronger.  When it comes to decorating, we both realize that my wife is way better than I am.  

Are we equal?  Certainly NOT!  But we are equivalent, or equal in value.

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Here is the main place I see a major problem:

Suppose a hiring manager needs a new employee.  It takes a long time to train someone for this work; they won't be fully productive until about five years out.  Consequently, the job pays remarkably well because employee turnover is so bad for productivity.  There are two top candidates (a woman and a man) with exactly the same education, qualifications, relevant work experience, etc.  They are both 25 and both just got married.  Who will the manager hire?  Sorry, but the simple fact of the matter is that the woman is much more likely to miss significant time due to childbearing.  All else being equal, statistically the man appears to present less risk.  THIS, as I see it, is the biggest problem to address.  It causes a very serious discrepancy in the perceived workforce values of men and women under 45 or so.  Unfortunately I dont have an answer.  And the economic implications (and therefore the political ramifications) are significant.

Answer 12

in the sense of available rights under the law of course we are equal, but as a matter of biology we are nowhere near equal. This isn't to say men are superior to women rather it is to acknowledge our strengths and weaknesses. Men have their gender specific advantages just as women do.

When a man says embrace and celebrate these qualities he isn't telling a woman to get in the kitchen. Or to clean up after him only a shrew like Tracey would think that.

Instead we are saying celebrate it by working together so as to compliment each other. together we are much stronger and capable then when our genders are segregated.

A crude example and somewhat stereotypical would be a man builds a house a woman makes it their home.  

Answer 13

Why should we have to choose? It's possible to have equal rights whilst also accepting that men and women are different. To make the world gender neutral takes away our diversity; to me, the true meaning of equal rights is to place equal worth on male and female characteristics. Whereas in the past men were viewed as superior to women, today the role of women should be seen as equal.

Believing that there are innate differences in the thought and communication patterns of men and women doesn't mean that we can't have equal opportunities. I don't know why people think it has to be one or the other. Equal doesn't mean the same.

Oh, and I'm female.

Answer 14

I think we should celebrate the differences between individuals, let men and women act however they want to, and ensure that nobody's rights supersede anyone else's rights on account of things they can't change.

Answer 15

It shouldn't be done at all we are all equal

Answer 16

The same way we used to, minus all the new special social considerations and duplicity for women.

Answer 17

i think because now its a new century men r not used 2 the change that women no  longer are just stay at home mothers and house wives that we can do much more than that and some men don't like that feeling that we (men and women) can actually b equal just like the first female president back then women couldn't even vote let alone run for president

Answer 18

Maybe we could throw a parade, or...I know! Have one of those festivals that they used to have in the Middle Ages where a "fool" would get to rule the court for a day! Only in this scenario, it could be a woman! We could let a woman be President for a week, just to see what kind of hilarious hi-jinks ensue...wouldn't that be fun? This would "celebrate the differences" (the differences being that women are weak, less intelligent, walking bags of hormones, of course) while having a good laugh at the ineffectual women. Ha, ha...oh, women, you're so funny with your "equal rights." Don't you know that to be "equal" you have to be a MAN?

Seriously, what the h**l does being different have to do with whether or not people should have equal rights? Your guess is as good as mine.

Answer 19

I say it too.  I think simply embracing general likes and dislikes and strengths rather than trying to turn everyone in to robots would be a good start.