A man can marry a one-year old baby and the marriage is valid, say salafis. Are all muslims like this?

Question

Dr. Ahmad Al-Mub'i is a Saudi Marriage Officiant and says it is.

http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/0/0/0/0/189/0/1798.htm

"There is no minimal age for entering marriage. You can have a marriage contract even with a one-year-old girl, not to mention a girl of nine, seven, or eight. This is merely a contract... But is the girl ready for s*x or not?...The Prophet Muhammad is the model we follow... he had s*x with her only when she was nine."

(1) How can a marriage be valid if a girl doesn't have teeth yet?

(2) How can a baby give consent?

(3) How can a father give consent on her behalf when she doesn't even know her own name yet?

Answer 1

If that hadith is true....I have another...from the hadiths we know that Ayesha's sister Asma was 10 years elder to her. Asma bint Abu Bakr died in 73 AH and she was 100 years old. Soooo...100 years old minus 73 years makes her 27 years old at the time of the Hijra. That makes her younger sister, Ayesha 17. And she wasn't married to the Messenger until 2-3 years later, in Medinah, making her 19-20. And there was no calendar until the khilafat of Umar bin  Al Khattab, so there's even more play in the dates.

There is an age of responsibility and you will never find these actions in the Qur'an.

Anyway, the answer is no. It's criminal behaviour, naturally. Also, its absolutely forbidden for men to marry women against their will! There is no question about that in Qur'an or whether a baby has any will in the matter.

I don't know how anyone could accept these lies against the Prophet and the people he loved. The hadiths are LOADED with disturbing lies like these. Ask those people if adult breast feeding is of strange men allowed in Qur'an, or whether the prophet of God could ever suggest it to his own wife, who is to have suggested it to other ladies, etc. How do they explain so many graphic descriptions of the prophet being intimate with his wife, relieving himself in public, Shirk (eg.Umar calling for Stoning adulterers in defiance of Al Qur'an), sodomy, prostitution (mu'ta), torturing travelers, etc.

That is not the man described in Al Qur'an as having an exalted character. These hadiths and histories do NOT contain Muhammad's Sunnah. They insult it.

Bukhari, Muslim, Ibn Nasa'i, Tirmidi, Abu Dawud, Tabari, etc. These scholars that gave us all this were contemporaries from Persia (at war with muslims at the time), 250 years after Allah's Messenger was gone.

Answer 2

That's messed up  

Answer 3

This is not islam and not a Saudi viewpoint..

Answer 4

What makes you say that he's salafee? That he's Saudi? That doesn't mean he is Salafee.

If you want the Salafee opinion then go to the Salafee scholars. See what Shaykh Ibn Uthaymeen said on the issue, he said that marriage is invalid without the consent of the girl, and this is a condition of the marriage.

He brought these evidences:

“The virgin must not be given in marriage until her permission has been sought.” Al-Bukhari no.5136 and Muslim no. 1419

This is general, so no guardian is excepted from it. In fact, it has been reported in Sahih Muslim:

“The father must seek the virgin’s permission.” Muslim no.1421.  

Answer 5

If the parents are happy with it, what's it you?

9 or 1....

In the past 1 year olds used to be very mature not like today.

Answer 6

You can't just use any old scholar and tell us what to do

And I second Abul Haarith. I've read those hadiths myself, and they're NOT out of context.

And Eccentric: The Prophet married Aisha (RA) Scholars now say she was older than 6. Even if she wasn't, the marriage was not cunsummated until she had reached puberty.

Answer 7

i don't know how can he say such thing!!! , in Islam the marriage isn't valid without girl's agreement .

Answer 8

The marriage is permitted only if the girl accepts. Now tell me, how can a one year old girl speak for herself????

Ofcourse this is not in Islam, its a total contradiction to the words of the Quran!

Answer 9

there is no such thing in islam about kid marriage.

There is a complete chapter in Quran in the name of woman. In Arabic “Nisa” is used for adult woman, where as “TIFAL” and “Radeea”  is used for a small kid. Even God didn’t use the word “Shaabba” which is used for young lady. God used “NISA” which clearly denotes woman. See below verses:

4:3. If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice.

In the above verses God tells us to marry woman of their own choice. Here again God used the word woman and not baby. So it is a clear indication that God has fixed the age to puberty.

See another verse from same chapter:

4:4. And give the women (on marriage) their dower as a free gift; but if they, of their own good pleasure, remit any part of it to you, Take it and enjoy it with right good cheer.

Here again God used the word woman and not a kid.

Let’s see one more verse from same chapter:

4.6. Make trial of orphans until they reach the age of marriage; if then ye find sound judgment in them, release their property to them; but consume it not wastefully, nor in haste against their growing up. If the guardian is well-off, Let him claim no remuneration, but if he is poor, let him have for himself what is just and reasonable. When ye release their property to them, take witnesses in their presence: But all-sufficient is Allah in taking account.

Again here God clearly mention the age of marriage and that is puberty.

There is one more place where God clearly tells us the age of marriage and that is the chapter of divorce

65:1. O Prophet! When ye do divorce women, divorce them at their prescribed periods, and count (accurately), their prescribed periods: And fear Allah your Lord: and turn them not out of their houses, nor shall they (themselves) leave, except in case they are guilty of some open lewdness, those are limits set by Allah. and any who transgresses the limits of Allah, does verily wrong his (own) soul: thou knowest not if perchance Allah will bring about thereafter some new situation.

Here u can see God is telling us the rule of divorce and its clearly mentioned woman and not a kid. This whole chapter of about rules of divorce and u can’t find even a single verse which tells us about kids divorce. The whole chapter is about woman.

One more verses from Chapter 33. The Clans, The Coalition, The Combined Forces

33:49. O ye who believe! When ye marry believing women, and then divorce them before ye have touched them, no period of 'Iddat have ye to count in respect of them: so give them a present. And set them free in a handsome manner.

Here again God has used the word woman and not a girl. He told us the rule of marriage, divorce and period of iddat.

Hope ur mind is now cleared that Islam never ever promoted child marriages.

Here one question arises why God didn’t mention the age of marriage in numerical form the main reason is the entire regions of the earth got different level of puberty. In Cold countries girls enter late into puberty age while in hot weather countries girls enter quite early it may vary from 16 ~18. Now it’s the duty of the local law maker that they should fix the age of marriage according to their own needs.  But God clearly fixed the age of marriage to puberty. And all above verses clearly advised us to get married when reached to puberty age.

Now question is how come Prophet of God who came to this earth ignored God’s rules of marriage and married to a kid? That is not possible that a messenger himself violets the rule and asked others to follow God’ saying. All the misconception is due to some false and fabricated hadith. Where as in real God’s messenger can’t ignore the message of God.

added later “love allah the real one” Madam there is enough evidence that prophet didn’t married or consummated Aysah when she was a kid.  And u can see all those evidence in my answer history. Pls don’t spread false things about Prophet on the bases of false and fabricated hadith. thanks

Answer 10

no no no!!

its not like that they can say anything they want but its not true at all! u can only marry when the girl is a women... and as soon as a girl starts her periods then she is a women as she can have babies and give birth....

so a 1 year old baby isnt a women is she??

ad who ever fdoes this is a freak and a weirdo...

Answer 11

i do not have much knowledge regarding this, but still i can say and for sure that it is NOT AT ALL a valid marriage !

Answer 12

of course this marriage in NOT valid..... what r u talking abt??

Answer 13

Yes-in Islam this is correct-you are allowed to marry foetus--in Pakistan this happens daily.

Answer 14

Mufti has spoken against it

Nourah Al-Khereiji I Arab News

THE grand mufti of Saudi Arabia, in recent press statements, has rightly warned parents against marrying their young daughters to men who are older than them by 50 and 60 years or more. He described such practices as an indication of lack of conscience on the part of the parents. He also said such marriages will not protect the chastity of the girls and may drive them toward sinful acts. The mufti stressed that the young girl will be living in agony while her parents enjoy the comforts her dowry can buy them.

I cannot agree more with the mufti. He is right in his warning about the consequences of such marriages which may lead the young girls to adultery to satisfy their sexual urges which old men cannot satisfy. To escape marital violence or unhappiness and the coldness of their elderly husbands, the young wives may also resort to drugs.

The marriage of old men to young girls is not new to this country or the world. It has always been there. We watch on TV young Yemeni girls, not yet 10, being married to old men. The old husbands could not provide the girls companionship or satisfy them sexually, so they approach the police asking for divorce.

I believe that many men and women who look at girls as only bodies without souls created for men’s sexual satisfaction, even if this s*x is horrible and terrifying to them because of their young age, will be crying when they see them return as divorcees or widows even though they may have not completed 10 years! What impressions will these girls carry about marriage that should be a relationship of love and harmony.

WE have heard about a father who married his 10-year-old girl to a man in his 70s for a dowry of SR150,000. The Human Rights Commission (HRC) intervened and delayed the marriage for five years. Just imagine the situation of a desperate child considered to be a married woman and the old man demanding his conjugal rights. This will definitely rob the girl of her innocence. When the consummation of marriage takes place five years later, she will be just 15 while her husband will be in his 80s! Fathers like these consider their daughters to be slaves selling them to the highest bidder. Or they compel them to marry their relatives or men from their tribe.

If the girl is lucky, she escapes a forced marriage, her salary going to her father every month if or when she is employed. The recipient of these monthly payments may be reluctant to marry her. Why should he lose a monthly income without doing any work?

Some newspapers and Internet sites recently published the story of a man in his 50s marrying a child of 8 by way of settling the debts of her father. The joke is that she is his third wife!

Some people justify marrying their young daughters by saying that Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) married Aisha when she was only nine years old. To these people we ask a simple question: Will the Prophet also be your role model in treating your wives with kindness, justice and love? Why cannot the Prophet also be your role model in marrying older women, divorcees and widows?

The latest in this farce or tragedy of marriage is what is known as “exchange marriage” in which you marry me your daughter and take mine! In my opinion, old men who want to marry girls the age of their granddaughters are mentally sick and need psychological treatment.

The grand mufti has clearly stated his position on these types of marriages. What remains now is the cooperation of all concerned agencies to put a halt to such abuses. As most of the cases take place in remote villages where there is poverty and illiteracy, we need to launch a campaign to make people aware of the social and moral implications of such marriages. The mother should not hesitate to inform the police if the father insists on marrying his child to an old man. The officials who write the marriage contracts should alert the HRC to such practices so that they step in to stop it in time. It will be good if we decide a certain age for marriage.

Marriage is a partnership that requires the consent of the two parties. It is based on love. The dowry is the right of the bride, not the parents. Women have bodies as well as souls.