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A murderer tortured, killed your daughter and was paroled thirty years later because he was deemed no threat .

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... to society: He was convicted at a time when the death penalty was not an option.

Would you feel justified in killing him even though you know you would get the death penalty for doing so? You know the courts will classify it as murder and the death penalty will be imposed.

Please don't change the premise of the hypothetical situation described above. The hypothetical situation is as it is.

Would you feel justified in murdering (as described by the courts) a paroled ex-convict and if so would you consider yourself a murderer and that the label 'murderer' was justified as per the courts and would you willingly accept the death penalty as a just and correct sentence?

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  1. I probably WOULD feel justified in doing something like that simply out of vengeance. But yes technically, I would be a murderer just the same as he and therefore have to face punishment.

    30 years of jail is 1000x worse than the death penalty. I'd rather die before spending 30 years in jail.

    For the record, I'd never kill anyone unless in a life-threatening situation that required severe self-defense. Everyone ultimately gets what they deserve in one way or another.


  2. Murder doesn't justify murder.  It puts the father in the same league as the murderer.  And what good would it do the dead daughter and the rest of the surviving family if this murder was commited?

  3. I'd get myself a double-barrel shotgun and find out where the b*****d lived.

  4. This calls for "A Time to Kill."

  5. Killing him slowly is more like it.

  6. i think i would feel justified in killing him

  7. He would vanish from the face of the Earth one night and no trace of his physical existence would ever be found. I would not stand trial for anything. Or, if I were too old and feeble to handle it neatly, I would just take him out and deal with whatever consequences society felt like doling out. But grieving old fathers are not generally given the death penalty for murdering their daughters' murderers.

  8. I think he should've had to serve a life sentence, regardless of whether or not he's a threat to society. He should remain in prison as a punishment; he took the life of someone else and he should spend the rest of his life facing up to what he did. (I also don't believe violent criminals can ever fully change.)

    But I don't agree with the death penalty, because I don't believe murder and violence is ever the right way to solve a problem. A civilised society keeps criminals away from the public; it doesn't sink to their level. If someone kills a murderer, they should also receive a life sentence.

  9. your question will elicit many responses, so the best thing to do would be to follow your own mind.

  10. Is that what your daughter would have wanted. Dont let her death make you do something that will make the nightmare live. I know its easy for me to say, but being on the outside looking in is always better to veiw. Carma will take place. You might not be there to see it, but she will. I wish the best for you.

  11. No, thats murder again !

    This forum blows. Where's dsds when we need him most ?

  12. Thirty years and paroled, means his sentence was completed. Killing (murdering) him will not bring your daughter back, nor will it bring any relief for your grief. I cannot say I know how you feel, for this has never happened to me. But, I do know that carrying around a burden of hatred and grief can destroy your soul. Remember the Lords prayer: Our father who art in heaven holy  be thy name. Give us this day our daily bread and FORGIVE US OF OUR TRESPASSES AS WE FORGIVE THOSE WHO TRESPASS AGAINST US. Lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil

  13. I would rather choose not to think these scenarios about my daughter.

  14. You got yourself an episode of Law and Order my friend.

  15. kill the m**o.

    when man made laws fail....use natural law

  16. No, its not justified. The guy that is leaving the prison is a completely different guy than the one that enter it.

    What you ask for is vengeance, not justice. 30 years? For what I am concern he has already paid for his crime.

    Its very difficult for me to hold a grudge for more than a day.

    In the extreme situation you mention, it will last me at most 1 to 2 years. If in that period I did not kill the guy myself. I would never do it.  (well except if he got like 5 years or so, then I will not only try to kill the guy but also the judge).

    30 year maximum security prison is enough punishment to anyone.

  17. No, because murder is murder; if you had killed the guy in the throes of anger when it happened, that would have been one thing, but now it would be revenge and you would get the chair or whatever death penalty your state uses. Plus, it doesn't matter if you "feel justified" for having committed the killing, if you yourself are dead.

  18. Murder is wrong, that doesnt mean somebody who has killed and torured children should get to roam the country free.

    Back to your question I would feel justified in removing this danger from the streets, however I would be really upset that he is free in the first place.

  19. Yes, I would do it, Dexter style if I could.  This was my innocent child and I would never recover.  I would be happy to accept whatever punishment the courts gave me and also feel justified in killing the animal.

  20. I think I would feel justified.  I have always told myself that if someone ever laid a finger on my daughter I would hunt them down ..no matter what the cost.

  21. I think my anger would blind me about being justified or not.

    But before I acted on that anger, I would consider other options than just plain murder. I would understand what the repercussions of that would be. More than one way to skin a cat and I would find a way to seek my revenge.

  22. After 30 years, I would be old so being killed myself would not be a big deterrent.

    And the murderer sure would be old and unhealthy after 30 years in prison so I know I probably could hunt and kill him.

    It really comes down to if killing him would be true justice for my daughter. Even if he is paroled after 30 years of h**l he is still going to live miserably.

  23. You wouldn't know how you would feel or what you would do unless you had this actual experience.

    People who say "I would do this and that" and have never been in this extreme and unlikely situation are talking through their hat.

    Most families and friends of victims DO wish at some level that they could wreak vengeance on the person who hurt their loved one, but very few do, because they are not monsters like the killers and creeps who harm others.

    Best wishes :-)

  24. He never would have made it to prison alive, so he never would have an oppertunity to be paroled.

  25. I feel justified in killing someone for causing me even the slightest indignity...

  26. If he ever came near me, I would probably kill him out of fear. But I don't think I would hunt him down. His life is already going to suck with that murder conviction on his record, and killing him would really only cause pain to his family, who are (presumably) innocent people. As much as I would hate him, I don't want to continue that cycle of destruction.

  27. murder is bad.  I dont want to murder anybody for anything. Also I dont want to punish people on my whim and fancy.  If the judicial system deemed it okay to parole or letting free, I have nothing to say.

  28. he would be lucky if all i did was kill him.

    I would understand why society would label me as a murderer, I did take someone's life.  I would be willing to live with the consequences of my own actions.

    I do not, however, feel the death sentence would be appropriate here.  I think that sentence should be kept for serial killers/random killers.  I killed one person that killed my daughter, I'm not a threat to anyone else so they really don't need to kill me.  But, they probably would give it to me.

  29. No, i dont believe in killing anyone, regardless of what they did.

    Revenge doesn't ease pain, it NEVER does, i've gotten revenge before.

    I would forgive them. that DOES ease the pain.

    I just dont believe in lowering myself to the level of a killer by repeating their actions.

    Plus you would hurt innocents by killing them, this person would probably have family members or friends that would be hurt by his passing, you must think of that as well.

    On that note it would also be incredibly selfish to seek your own vengeance at the cost of those friends and family.

  30. No, I don't agree with the death penalty.  It may be hard for me to accept, but if he's served his 30 years, then he has paid his price - 30 years is a significant chunk of anyone's life :-)
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