A question about global warming?

Question

now im not saying i know anything because to be honest im not all knowlageble in the area of global warming but people are saying that the water levels are rising and half of the country will dissapear etc. Say we took half of th stuff out of the bottom of the ocean wouldent it decrease? i mean like whn you get out of the bath tub and the water goes down? if we took enough sunke s***s etc out wouldent the ocea level go down?

Answer 1

I think the answer to your question is "no," it wouldn't make much difference.

Really, though, you should  learn a lot more about global climate change and what it is expected to do and is NOT expected to do to sea levels around the world.

The main worry about global climate change and sea levels is that we will increasingly heat up the world through our emissions of "greenhouse gases" -- which include carbon dioxide or CO2 from the different ways we consume "fossil fuels" including oil, coal and natural gas.

There are other "greenhouse" gases besides CO2 that we need to think about, and "greenhouse" gases are certainly not the only factor that has caused the earth's climate to change throughout the past 4 billion years.

Other factors - shifts in the Earth's orbit and tilt on its axis known as "Milankovitch" cycles, shifts in the intensity of solar radiation, the movement of tectonic plates that have shifted around the world's continents and changed the flow of important ocean currents -- also have affected the world's climate as well.

In our era, though, greenhouse gases are the main factor driving climate change, according to leading climate scientists, and CO2 is the primary  greenhouse gas of concern, although it's not the only one.

Well, suppose global industrial emissions of CO2 and other greenhouse gases continue on their present course.  This is expected to cause "global warming" (really "global climate change.")

Once global warming/global climate change heats up the world enough, several things will start to happen that will then affect the average level of the oceans around the world:

1) We will melt down mountain glaciers in different areas around the world -- including, say, the Sierra Nevada mountains in the United States, the mountains of Alaska, the Andes Mountains in South America, the Alps in Europe, and the Himalaya Mountains in Asia.  

This melting of mountain glaciers will then release a lot of extra water into the world's oceans, raising them a little bit -- say, several inches to a few feet.  

2) A second big worry is that if "global warming" or global climate change goes on long enough, this will melt a big part of the massive Greenland ice cap.  This Greenland ice cap contains a lot more water/ice than the mountain glaciers of the world.  And if completely melts away, ocean levels around the world will rise by up to 6 meters -- more than 20 feet.

3)  A third big worry is that if it goes on long enough, "global warming" or "global climate change" (it really is more than just "warming" - it's more complicated than that) will melt away the ice of the West Antarctic ice sheet.  

This alone has enough water trapped in it to raise ocean levels by an average of about 5 meters (about 16-17 feet) if completely melted.

(4) The fourth and final worry about climate change and ocean levels is that if too much warming occurs, the huge ice cap of Antarctica -- the whole thing -- could melt.  Scientists say this would release enough ice to raise average ocean levels by up to 100 to 200 meters around the world -- or by hundreds of feet, using the English/American measurements.  

This amount of sea level rise obviously would be catastrophic for big coastal cities and also low-lying coastal areas (eg the farming areas of Bangaladesh) around the world.

This is really what we're talking about when we're talking about climate change and ocean levels.

Of the different threats, number 1 -- the melting of mountain glaciers around the world -- is already well underway; it already seems to be happening in many parts of the world.  

And it probably means that some significant increase in ocean levels is inevitable by the end of the 21st century.

Probably even worse than the rising sea levels tjat this will cause, however, are the flooding and drought problems that will probably go along with the disappearance of the mountain glaciers.  

The reason is that glacier meltwater is the source of water that feeds many of the great rivers of the world -- e.g. the Amazon, the Indus and Ganges rivers of India and Pakistan, the Mekong and Brahmaputra rivers of south Asia, the Yang-tze River of China, etc.  

And as the glaciers start to melt faster, many areas fed by these rivers are likely to experience serious flooding.  

Then once the glaciers are gone, these same areas are likely to experience drought, as the usual irrigation waters that farmers have relied on for centuries or even millennia dry up and perhaps disappear.

That's a much worse problem than the small amount of sea level rise that melting glaciers will cause, and it's a problem that we can't fix by pulling old ships off the ocean's floor.

The fourth big ice/sea level threat, the melting of the entire Antarctic ice sheet and the flooding of all the world's major coastal regions as oceans rise by hundreds of meters - really isn't expected to happen for hundreds or even thousands of

years.  

So it's  a very long-term threat, not an immediate one.

What's more questionable, in terms of time frame, is just how fast the big ice sheets of Greenland and West Antarctica are expected to melt.

For the past 10 years or more, the climate scientists and other experts who put together the climate reports of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (the "IPCC") have basically been ignoring the ice sheets of Greenland and West Antarctica in their projections.

Why?  One assumption has been that too little is known about the ice in Greenland and West Antarctica, and that its melting is far too slow, to make it possible for scientists to say anything meaningful about what its melting will do to sea and ocean levels.

However, there are a number of scientists who are now saying that the melting of the Greenland glaciers and their calving of icebergs into the North Atlantic has speeded up over the past few decades.  

Some pessimistic climate watchers are now saying that because of this acceleration in glacier flow towards the ocean, the Greenland ice sheet could contribute to very significant increases in average ocean levels by the year 2100.  Other scientists and other climate watchers, however, are skeptical about these claims.

Why the worry about the Greenland ice melt speeding up?

The pessimistic climate scientists and observers of Greenland ice are now saying that the warming that Greenland has recently experienced has caused the appearance of little lakes of meltwater -- called "moulins" -- on the surface of the Greenland glaciers.

The problem with these moulins, according to the pessimists, is that the water in them is penetrating downwards through cracks in the ice to the very bottoms of the glaciers, the places where the glaciers rest on bedrock.  

The argument that the pessimists are making is that when meltwater from the surface of the glaciers gets down to this bedrock level, it serves to lubricate the glaciers.  

The glaciers already are moving downhill from the interior of Greenland towards the ocean, but they're moving very slowly -- at, well, "glacial" speeds.  

But as meltwater from above makes the glaciers more slippery and lessens the friction between the bedrock and the glaciers, the argument goes, this speeds up the "glacial" movement of the ice, and the glaciers will start dropping ice bergs into the Atlantic at an accelerated rate.

The big "Jakobshavn" glacier in Greenland is one of the glaciers whose rate of movement is already supposed to have speeded up in this way.  

And according to the global climate pessimists -- who do not speak for all scientists, but do speak for some -- this means that Greenland glaciers will probably contribute much more meltwater to the world's ocean by 2100 AD than the IPCC reports have been suggesting.

This could make the predicted rates of sea level rise around the world much worse than the scientists have been saying.

A similar problem seems to affect the glaciers and ice sheets of West Antarctica, according to some of the more pessimistic climate watchers.

In West Antarctica, the main body of ice isn't melting very fast at all, and within the interior of the Antarctic continent, for various reasons, "global warming" is actually expected to increase the size of the ice sheet.

Why?  A world that is warmer on the average should bring about more ice and snow fall around the world on average, according to the leading climate nerds.  

This should mean that more snow falls on Antarctica than today, and if this snow does not melt right away but increases in volume, the total ice pack of Antarctic should grow, not shrink -- and in growing, it should remove water from the oceans of the world, not add water to them.  

"Global warming" also should cause a speedup in the winds that circle the Antarctic continent, and this should make its climate increasingly isolated, cut off, from the warming climate of the surrounding oceans.  

Presto: while the climate gets warmer and the ice begins to melt elsewhere in the world, including in parts of the West Antarctic peninsula that juts out towards South America,  the main part of interior Antarctica should get more snowfall, more buildup of ice and snow, and such cold temperatures that the snow and ice don't melt.  

Thus on the whole, Antarctica could see an increase of snow and ice cover over the next century, and this buildup there could partly counteract any melting of ice that occurs elsewhere in the world.  

That's the good news about Antarctica.  But in West Antarctica, something already is occurring that leads the pessimists to doubt this cheery scenario.  

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Answer 2

Very simple:

The more Rain means the Icecaps are melting.

There was a story in Yahoo News:

"One Month of Rain in one Day".

I asked a question about it and got deleted in 5 minutes.

I did that three times, always the same.

It's the Freemasons who do it.

They want to depopulize the Planet.

That means they will be save.

And we will be dead.

The more water is loose, the greater a Natural desaster will be.

And a Natural desaster will come on Dec 21 2012.

That is a fact.

It's simple, water evaporating, making clouds, clouds make rain.

More Water more Rain.

The "FREEMASONS" they call themselfs "GODS" over us, i.e. Religion.

Thats why they want a New World Order.

Why a New World Order?

Is the Old World not good enough to live in?

Well it should better be!

By the Rate the "FREEMASONS" (No Free No Masons)destroy our Planet we run out of Oxygen in just a few years from NOW.

It is a very simple calculation!

We cut Trees ==> we decrease OXYGEN production

We burn Fossile Fuel ==> We INCREASE Oxygen demand.

At some stagen it will be like Venus, a RUNNAWAY GREENHOUSE EFFECT.

We MUST STOP it before it is to late.

So Who and Why NWO?

Forget what you think you know because it is all a lie.

Thousands of years misseducation, Lies and Tyranny from the Churches and Slavery from the Aristocrazy.

Who are they, where do they come from?

Well we have to go back and forh in Time.

14.400 Years ago when in our evolution something happened, a sharp rise and 21 December 2012 when the same thing happens again.

I am speaking of the alignement of our solarsystem to the center of the "Multiverse".

By then we will see a wandering planet who Zacharia Stitchin calls "Nibiru".

This Planet has a 3.600 year Rotation Cycle around the Sun.

3.600 = 60x60 (Seconds in an Hour) 360 Degrees 360 Days

That is No Coincidence!

Take a good look at OUR HISTORY.

I is an History of WAR.

It is the HISTORY OF AN INVASION!

THE ORDER OF THE ILLUMINATI!

When you are a "FREEMASON" then most them stop at the third degree, unaware that there exist higher degrees up to the 33rd Degree in two different Paths:

The "YORK RITE" and the "SCOTTISH RITE"

At the 33rd Degree Ritual they are asked: "Do you beleive in Jesus?".

If they answer :YES they hear ==> "Your Journey comes to an end, You completed the circle".

If they answer :NO they hear ==> "There is a Higher Path waiting for you. Are you willing to step above?"

This higher path is called: "THE ORDER OF THE ILLUMINATI"

Contrary to what people think it means, here is a detailed explanation.

ILLUMINATI ==> ILLUMINATE ==> SET ALIGHT ==> SET ON FIRE ==> AQUIRE POWER

THE ORDER OF THE ILLUMINATI ==> THE ONES THAT CAME TO SET THE WORLD ON FIRE

And you ONLY get in this club if you have BLUE BLOOD in your Veins.

Get it? Blue Blood, NOT RED!

Whatever it is really blue doesn't matter but it is an indicator of BIG Difference between US and THEM!

They, the "Ruling Class" KILL US, STARVE US, USE US, ENSLAVE US, BETRAY US.

They do everything to make our live miserable and WE PAY FOR IT!

So where does this "BLUE BLOOD" come from?

It is ALIEN ORIGIN, that's for sure!

But how and from which planet?

To understand this you must understand that life exists as energy alone.

Why is that?

Because LIFE IS AN ENERGY.

And it comes from the one place all energy comes from, from the Sun.

All life is a manifestation of this energy in one form and another.

AND LIFE EXISTS ON THE SUN, Life that is PLASMA ENERGY based.

Proof?

If one looks closely at Sunspots one finds that it has an outer "SHELL" of energy and an inside.

It is exacly like an egg in characteristics.

Furthermore it "TAKES ENERGY IN" that is indicated by the cooler temperatures that make a Sunspot appear darker then it's surroundings.

Again we have the characteristics of an Egg that takes the warmth of the sun or the mother to grow.

Sunspots have a 12 Year cicle from No to High Acivity.

This is their incubation Time.

From Fertilization to Birth.

Our Incubation Time is 9 months, others come in all different ranges.

This Twelve Year Cicle is manifested in Astrology and in the Chinese Zodiac.

It is on how much influence they have over us.

They are a HIGH ENERGY BASED LIFE FORM.

We are a LOW ENERGY BASED LIFE FORM.

Now connect the Dots between the ORDER OF THE ILLUMINATI and the SUN.

LUCIFER ==> Latin: "The Light Bearer" another Word for the Sun.

The CULT OF AEON ==> AEON ==> THE SUN

TO SET THE WORLD ON FIRE ==> HIGH ENERGY OUTPUT ==> HIGH ENERGY LIFEFORM

FREEMASONS ==> FREE TO ENSLAVE US ==> FREE TO BUILT WALLS AND TEMPLES

SKULL AND BONES ==> PIRATES FREE TO KILL US ==> FREE TO CREATE WAR

WICHCRAFT ==> THE RELIGION OF FREEMASONS AND WICCA ==> IT TEACHES THE USEAGE OF US, "PROFANE GOYIM"

BLOODLINES ==> FOR THEM IMPORANT BECAUSE THEY DO NOT INTERBREED WITH US

ROTSCHILD ==> THE SOURCE OF ALL EVIL

We use only 20% of our menal capacity because we only use one of our senses,

the eyes ==> Hence the "All seeing eye".

Furthermore everything we do is mathematical.

Language is a mathematical concept, so is money, time, everything.

And the FREEMASONS and the ILLUMINATI the ROSECRUTIONS they learn VEDIC MATHEMATICS.

They learn the easy way, the way to use people, "GOYIM"

They learn simpler and learn more because they are richer because they live of us.

THEY ARE NOTHING BUT PARASITES.

THEY NEED TO BE IDENTIFIED AND ELIMINATED, BEFORE THEY DESTROY US!

Answer 3

Here's what I think.  Don't stop thinking!  The fact that you ARE thinking the way you do says that you are thinking like a genius whether you are one or not.  Genius is made, not born.  Read my blog, "26 traits of genius," on my MySpace blog at myspace.com/future_futurity.

Answer 4

if they took all the stuff out of the oceans it would rise and drown all the land, why do you think sponges live in the ocean...:-)

anywhos this global warming mularky is just rubbish, Did you know that some scientist say that we are still in the middle of an Ice age!!!

Answer 5

if did remove half the sea bed where on earth would we put it all??

Answer 6

i think when you look at how much sea water covers the planet it wouldnt make a little bit of difference.

hey but thats good thinking.... you think in a different level to most people...

Answer 7

All the stuff would be but a pin point.  The volume of water is on the order of 300 million cubic miles, not 30.  Each cubic mile of water weighs 4.6 BILLION tons.  I doubt if we could scrape up a single cubic mile of stuff and even if we could that would only have a 1 part in 300 million.  Basically, no effect.

Here's some interesting points about the H2O on earth

http://ga.water.usgs.gov/edu/earthhowmuc...

Answer 8

good for you..im glad you care,,,,take care.

Answer 9

You're talking about MILES of material, possibly thousands to equal the displacement you are talking about.Go to the beach anywhere and you will see the water right where it should be.

Answer 10

WOW........................................ kinda feel like I am talking to my daughter about science she is 7, you know you can google these thoughts in your head before you ask them so you dont get the sacastic remarks.

I say it wont work thanks for playing.

Andy got his talking points and downloaded them for our conivence....isnt that nice.

LOL you said al gore and science......that was funny he dosnt use science, he uses faith and emotions.

Answer 11

Yeah, its a good idea - i think. i dunno really, i spose you could shovel the ocean bottom out and put it on land...japan did something sortof similar where they created land on the sea by using waste and useless land from the mountains and stuff. I know it might be impossible, but oh well, like as technology gets better stuff like that will get easier.

Answer 12

The volume we are talking about is 30 million cubic km, or 7 million cubic miles.

That would be a cube 310 km, or 190 miles, on all sides.

That idea, unfortunately, could never work.

EDIT:  andyg77... I am talking about the volume of the water from melting ice.  My source says 30 million cubic km, which I converted to about 7 million cubic miles.  Yours says 24 million cubic km and 5.8 million cubic miles.  I neglected to account for the density difference between liquid water and ice.

Answer 13

It's a good Idea, I'll give you that. I believe in global warming, if you don't, that's you. I won't argue. But the sea level is raising. As they say, 'one raindrop raises the sea'. I know it sounds fishy-sorry for the bad pun-but it is raising. And i think part of the reason is cuz of all the trash we dump in the water. All the pollutants we're puttin in the air from our factories and cars and everything else.

Oh and a question: where would we put these sunken ships? Yea we could put them in like a huge museum but some things just can't be moved without them falling apart. Like the Titanic-it's a piece of history, man, we can't let that fall apart! ;)

I know i didn't really answer your question, but I'm just throwing out what I think. Good question, though!!

Answer 14

yup

Answer 15

to be honest, the amount of rubbish in the Oceans isn't the case for sea levels rising, nor is it the cause. if we wanted to drop the Ocean down a metre or two, we could pump water in Africa, so people would have some form of basic health

Answer 16

that is a very good idea

its always cool to know that people care about that stuff

it ha problems though

if we took out everyhitng, the fish would have knowhere to live and stuff...

also, the ocean is very bi and it wouldnt help all that much...unless we took out everyhting

i wish we could help but there are too many pollutions happening and knowone seems to care that their children...childrens children...and a couple after that wont live in a good place.

we can start by electric cars but no one seems to be buying them right now

the world a long time ago seemed perfect to me

i mean, in the 1940s and stuff, there was hardly anyhting bad about the earth

no big factorys...no 5489204239809 cars

ehh

idunoo

i hope i helped answer the Question though

Answer 17

Do you know where all these ships are then???

Answer 18

That is a good idea,  It's good though too to understand the facts behind this.  Al Gore's video lays out the science well, that if the west Antartic ice sheets or Greenland's ice were to melt, sea levels would rise by seven meters.  This is enough to flood major cities around the world, including large portions of American cities.  Don't worry, though, most our country won't be underwater.  Some whole countries, though, like Bangladesh are only 3 meters above sea level, where 100 million people live.

We need to start changing our lifestyles to solve the climate crisis, and it can be done!  Al Gore has mentioned in the last couple of days that if we were to completely green our electricity in ten years(coming 100% from nonrenewable energy) then this might solve the climate crisis.  Of course, it is estimated that the cost of this would be $3 trillion, but isn't that close to what we're spending on wars?

Answer 19

It is all a scam for money.. The flooding problem is already taken care of.. Try this test.... Fill a glass with ice and then continue to fill it with water to the rim... Now watch it and how much ran out. The rest of Global Warming is just that ,a LIE....

Answer 20

good idea, but what most of these people dont understand is that the ocean will not rise 100 feet in like 2 seconds like in "The day after tommorow"

It would take hundredss, if not thousands, of years for even some of our coastlines to disappear, let alone half the country lol

also, where would you put half of the ocean floor??? lol

Answer 21

Sea levels would not decrease if you removed water from the sea. The water cycle would mean this wouldn't make much of a difference. Water evaporates from the ground when it isn't taken up by plants this happens at any temperature above zero. The molecules in the liquid have energy and to lose that energy they evaporate, moving from one state of matter to another. When there are large amounts of water vapour (H2O gas) in the air the particles codensate into clouds. This is where all the sea water would collect, increasing cloud cover over a large area depending on how well it would be distributed. Increasing the cloud cover and thus the amount of solar radiation reflected by the clouds, so the atmosphere retains heats and gradually temperatures increase, which are very noticable regionally, globally it would have an affect if it went on for a prolonged amount of time.

So in the end, it would add to global warming and the natural 'greenhouse effect'.

Answer 22

i havent seen any evidence of global warming where i live over the last 3 years. with all this rain i am not surprised we are likely to sink. like your thinking though

Answer 23

Although that could work, digging up enough of the ocean floor and piling the stuff on land would be FAR more expensive than just developing alternative energy sources to stop emitting CO2. The volume of material that would need to be moved is about a million times more than we could ever do in reality.

Any way, the IPCC report forecasts that in 100 years sea level will rise as little as 18 cm (7 inches) or as much as and 59 cm (23 inches). This would slightly increase flooding risk for low lying coastal areas like New Orleans but will most definitely NOT put half the country, or even 1% of it, under water. See table 3.1 on page 8 of the second source. This is the actual report written by the scientists of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and not some news story or second hand report.

Answer 24

rising sea levels are the last thing you should be worrying about, global cooling or a super eruption are much more worrying.

Answer 25

It could work! We should try it :) x

Answer 26

A good analogy to your idea of "taking the debris out the sea to make the water level drop" would be to take a grain of sand out of an oylimpic size swimming pool and see how much the water level dropped - not much is it?

It was a good idea and we need creative people like you who think outside the box, but there is just such a vast amount of water in the oceans compared to  the amount of sea debris(even if all ships ever built had sunk) that it wouldn't work.

But keep trying we need your ideas!

Edit: Like 'willow' says there are lots of other natural disaters that are overdue, most of which are far wore than rising seas. These super eruptions and switching polarity of the magnetic feild (whilst switching round scientists believe it will dissapear for some time leaving us open to harmful radiation from space!)

Rising seas don't look too bad now do they?

Oh and 'Andy F' the question was about the stated idea or did you forget that while you were rambling on about the aspects of rising sea level and not about the actual answer wanted in your attemp to get the best answer.

Not to mention you copied and pasted a lot of it.

Answer 27

well, people are worried about ocean levels rising.

how do we make it go down?

wait.

taking stuff out wont help much,

taking the water out could possibly would mess up climate even more.

we just have to wait for the climate to restableize