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A question for TRUE Christians!?

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Why aren't LDS Mormons not Christians? I thought that anyone who 'believed in Christ' is a "Christ"ian. When really taken apart aren't both Christians and LDS the same?

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  1. Isn't it illuminating that only Christians think they have the right to judge who is a "true" Christian and who is not?

    Mormons are one of many denominations of Christianity.

    When Jesus Christ said that what you judge of others will be your sentence.

    Matthew 7: 1Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2For with what judgment

    ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it

    shall be measured to you again.


  2. Mormons are NOT Christians, because they follow a false prophet and a person who changed the whole core concept of Christianity. As djmantx said, if this was true, even Muslims would be Christians. They claim to know Jesus and follow him, but just follow another (criminal) 'prophet' who came after Jesus. What different does it make with Mormons?

    People like Jospeh Smith and Mohammed helped fulfill Biblical prophesy on false prophets!

    Matthew 7:15‐20: Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

    Mark 13:22: For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform signs and miracles to deceive the elect—if that were possible.

    And those who follow false prophets reject Christ's words, and those who reject his words are eternally rejected!

  3. Not everyone whom believes in god is a christian. Christians believe in the fasting during lent, selabicy, and other well know believes. Other religions/cults that believe in Christ follow some differnt guidlines thus differing themselfs from Christianity such as with the Great Schism.

  4. Even "untrue" Christians or atheists could answer this.  There are significant differences in the teachings of Mormonism and Christianity.  They simply can not be considered the same religion or different denominations.

  5. It all hangs on the importance of truth.

    Paul, in Galatians, is vehement that there is no room for an alternate or variant Gospel.  (even if an angel from heaven should preach it!  Ch 1:6-9.)

    So, any adding to the original message, or any leaving out of an essential part of it, or distortion of it, is an accursed act.

    What the essential gospel is, and who has or has not corrupted it, added to it, etc.  has been debated and fought over down the centuries.

    I decline to go into details on one side or the other, and not just because it would take ages though, given the incompatibilities, it's clear that not all groups that have called themselves Christian can have been.

    But as to just believing...  I note that according to the epistle of James, even the demons believe in God, and that doesn't make them "saved".

  6. No LDS and Christians have extremely different beliefs.

    When taken apart, the deeper you get the more different they become.

    LDS use the same terms as Christians but the words all mean something entirely different.

    Christians believe in one God.

    Mormons believe in many.

    Christians believe Jesus is the ONLY begotten Son of God and He is God.

    Mormons believe Jesus and Lucifer are brothers and that Jesus is not God.

    To learn more see the links below:

    http://www.allaboutcults.org/

    http://www.allaboutcults.org/what-do-mor...

    http://www.waltermartin.com/eyewit.html

    http://www.waltermartin.com/cults.html

  7. They are christians. They believe in Christ.  The only difference is they don't believe in the Trinity.  They believe that the holy ghost, Christ, and God are three seperate beings.

  8. Mormons are "True Christians".

    This lie started when pastors were losing members (and thier financial support) and started purposefully spreading lies about the LDS church.  Many of their members believed these lies.  Some also taught that Mormons have horns.  

    Mormons are Christians.  

  9. What IS a "true Christian"?  

  10. Okay, we are Christians. We are one of the many denominations of Christianity. What people have put before my post is partially right, but false. We do worship Christ as our God in a sense. (It will take a lot of explaining, but I have to go get ready for church. So... email me on that topic if you want to learn about that.... in the meantime, here's this.)

    What brings about this controversy is mainly the fact that we believe that the Godhead is three different individuals. Not one together. We believe in God the Eternal Father, in his son Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost. Since Christ is perfect like His Father, and that there is no other way to get to the Father then through Christ, if you were to put Christ and God next to each other, you would not be able to tell them apart. They look like each other, they act like each other, they think the same. The only way you would know which one is which is if God introduced His Son, like He does I think two times in the Bible. "This my Beloved Son.."

    This is an excerpt from an article titled, "The Only True God and Jesus Christ Whom He Hath Sent" by Elder Jeffrey R Holland of the Twelve Apostles. It goes over why we are Christian and will clear up any thing that the people on this post will say about why we're not.

    "...So any criticism that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints does not hold the contemporary Christian view of God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost is not a comment about our commitment to Christ but rather a recognition (accurate, I might add) that our view of the Godhead breaks with post–New Testament Christian history and returns to the doctrine taught by Jesus Himself. Now, a word about that post–New Testament history might be helpful.

    In the year a.d. 325 the Roman emperor Constantine convened the Council of Nicaea to address—among other things—the growing issue of God’s alleged “trinity in unity.” What emerged from the heated contentions of churchmen, philosophers, and ecclesiastical dignitaries came to be known (after another 125 years and three more major councils) as the Nicene Creed, with later reformulations such as the Athanasian Creed. These various evolutions and iterations of creeds—and others to come over the centuries—declared the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost to be abstract, absolute, transcendent, imminent, consubstantial, coeternal, and unknowable, without body, parts, or passions and dwelling outside space and time. In such creeds all three members are separate persons, but they are a single being, the oft-noted “mystery of the trinity.” They are three distinct persons, yet not three Gods but one. All three persons are incomprehensible, yet it is one God who is incomprehensible.

    We agree with our critics on at least that point—that such a formulation for divinity is truly incomprehensible. With such a confusing definition of God being imposed upon the church, little wonder that a fourth-century monk cried out, “Woe is me! They have taken my God away from me, … and I know not whom to adore or to address.” How are we to trust, love, worship, to say nothing of strive to be like, One who is incomprehensible and unknowable? What of Jesus’s prayer to His Father in Heaven that “this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent”?

    It is not our purpose to demean any person’s belief nor the doctrine of any religion. We extend to all the same respect for their doctrine that we are asking for ours. (That, too, is an article of our faith.) But if one says we are not Christians because we do not hold a fourth- or fifth-century view of the Godhead, then what of those first Christian Saints, many of whom were eyewitnesses of the living Christ, who did not hold such a view either?

    We declare it is self-evident from the scriptures that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are separate persons, three divine beings, noting such unequivocal illustrations as the Savior’s great Intercessory Prayer just mentioned, His baptism at the hands of John, the experience on the Mount of Transfiguration, and the martyrdom of Stephen—to name just four.

    A related reason The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is excluded from the Christian category by some is because we believe, as did the ancient prophets and apostles, in an embodied—but certainly glorified—God. To those who criticize this scripturally based belief, I ask at least rhetorically: If the idea of an embodied God is repugnant, why are the central doctrines and singularly most distinguishing characteristics of all Christianity the Incarnation, the Atonement, and the physical Resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ? If having a body is not only not needed but not desirable by Deity, why did the Redeemer of mankind redeem His body, redeeming it from the grasp of death and the grave, guaranteeing it would never again be separated from His spirit in time or eternity?18Any who dismiss the concept of an embodied God dismiss both the mortal and the resurrected Christ. No one claiming to be a true Christian will want to do that." end quote

    EDIT: This was above-

    "No LDS and Christians have extremely different beliefs.

    -And when you get down to it there are only a few things we differ from 'traditional' beliefs.

    When taken apart, the deeper you get the more different they become.

    -When you compare any two Christian Churches, the deeper you get, the more different they become. Why do we have so many churches then eh?

    LDS use the same terms as Christians but the words all mean something entirely different.

    Christians believe in one God.

    -We believe in God the Eternal Father, in His son Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.

    Mormons believe in many.

    -We believe in one God over this earth, but there are many God's in existance. We worship one God.

    Christians believe Jesus is the ONLY begotten Son of God and He is God.

    -When Christ comes again (known as the 2nd coming) we will worship Christ as God. He will be God over this earth, he will be our judge. This has to do with the fact that he died for us, in a sense "purchasing" us. "We are not our own". Christ will be our God when He comes to Earth again to reign.

    Mormons believe Jesus and Lucifer are brothers and that Jesus is not God.

    -Christ and Lucifer are spiritual brothers, and are our spiritual brothers also. We believe that Christ is the ONLY begotten Son of God in the flesh. Before we came to Earth we lived in with God in the pre-earth life. We are His literal spirit children, including Christ and Lucifer. Christ and Lucifer both proposed a plan for how we could gain bodies to make it back to God after coming to earth. Lucifer's plan was rejected, and he with 1/3 of the host of heaven was cast out onto the earth without bodies. Everyone that accepted Christ's plan has come to earth to gain a body and to be tested.

  11. To me a person follows christ and that's it. Not following a MAN made church! That is what the LDS church does. They put to much emphasis on all the man made bologna!

    God +Christ and atonement, thats it. ALSO whats in your heart. I dont think mormon are "damned." Honestly most of them according to the Bible will most certainly be in Heaven. Its just here on Earth the LDS faith should cut out all (Godhood, polygamy in the CK, temple ceremonies copied from masonry) the EXTRAS and a Christ like life..(they got that part) I blame the mormon leaders...past and present. IMO...

  12. I suppose you could consider Mormons to be Christians, but you couldn't say that a Christian is a Mormon. Mormons have additional beliefs, like amenities to the bible. Christians believe in the bible, but don't believe in the Mormons' amenities to it.

  13. Jesus lived.  There is so much historical evidence for that that it would be foolish to debate that.  

    Mormons believe in many things that are contradictory to the Bible.  They believe that Jesus was just one of many gods, which is not true.

    They believe that they can become a god, which is not true.

    They believe in Joseph Smith's 'revelations', which are false prophecies and have no legitimate weight behind them.

    Mormons have added false teachings to the Bible.  

    To be Christian, is to truly follow Jesus.  Mormons follow their made-up perception of life and god(s).

  14. The truth is that Jesus is God Himself.  But Mormonism rejects this truth.  Therefore Mormonism has a different and fake "god" that cannot save anyone.  

  15. Well by your definition Muslims would be Christians.

    Those who accept the atonement and follow the teachings of Christ are Christians.

  16. No, they are not the same.  I will try my best to not get too technical.  The word "Christian" was first used by Jesus Christ's earliest disciples.  Christians believe that Jesus Christ was God made flesh, that God choose to become human in order to sacrifice himself that those who believe in him would be absolved of their sins.  Mormons, on the other hand, believe that Jesus Christ was not God.  Instead, he was just a messenger of God, an angel.  There is a big difference.  It is a far greater sacrifice to offer oneself versus ordering a subordinate to sacrifice himself or herself.

  17. Basically, because they do not believe in the Christ revealed in the Bible, but have their own view which contradicts Scripture. They also contradict many other teachings of the Bible.  

  18. I believe that anyone who has accepted Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior is a Christian.

  19. I am sorry but being ex-wiccan, the priesthood is nothign more then a warlocks ability to perform  witchcraft  Jesus died on the cross, if you are a true christian, yuo need no preistcraft to heal or to be a prophect, you need only pray, there is no need of a preistcraft to do so, but you just don;t get it.

    All other religions pray, they do not need some kind of craft to heal and prophecy.

    Also all other christians do not believe that things must be done behind closed doors, in rituals, Jesus died on a cross and tore the veil/heavy curtain from the temple which means that sin/curtain that seperated us from God is now gone and there is no need of temples and we can come directly into his presence, again mormons do not understand what Jesus did and th eprophet is tryign to keep you from your God.

  20. im sorry...i dont know what a LDS Mormon is.

    I am a Christian who does not attend church...i believe that Jesus is my church.

    the correct definition of a true Christian is :

    One who puts Jesus as number one in their life......

    dying to the flesh to live in the spirit with Christ.

    a true Christian is not spending their time accumulating money, concentrating on  having all sorts of "must have" material items,is not  trying to get as much worth and recognition out of this life as possible........rather, a true Christian spends their time building on their faith with Jesus, doing good things and being good people, letting the light of God show through us, so others will see that God is real....letting Christ have all control....for we are saved by the Grace of God....not by our own works.

    All i know is if Jesus is truly number one in your world and you just let go and let Him take over....you cant go wrong....no matter what religion you claim to be!....we all become one!

    Amen.....Praise be to Christ our Lord

    with love...."D"


  21. I am not a typical Christian, and don't claim to be, because I do not believe the same as them.

    I am a Latter-day Saint.  I believe Jesus Christ is God's Son, not God the Father.  In that way, we are different.

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