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1) Do you believe humans could evolve to were we have mental powers such as telepathy, telekinesis, pyrokinesis, the ability to transcend time and space, esc...?

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  1. Evolving is physically impossible Ben D. ;)


  2. Only if there was an evolutionary advantage to doing so.  Also, for it to be effective, there would have to be at least 2 people able to do it to start with.

  3. Transcend time and space?  I want some of your crack.  No.  None of that.

  4. Evolution is not Marvel Comics. So no.

  5. We already possess these abilities. Many of us just aren't as adept at tapping into them. Our senses are very keen and perceptive. A lot of us are able to know things that according the laws of physics should be unknowable. The branch of physics known as paraphysics (which is often passed off as pseudoscience) seeks to explore the phenomena of thought transfer, telepathy, prophesies, object manipulation, etc.

  6. As of this point, no.  There is no evidence that there is any way the human mind can affect anything outside itself in any manner.  Anyone who believes that they do occur has either been duped or has hallucinated.

  7. No, I don't.

  8. No

  9. Computers are now able to communicate with each other wirelessly.  Therefore, I see no reason why this ability could not be recreated biologically (telepathy).  However, with the technology readily available to us, as well as our ability to easily communicate by other means, I don't think this particular ability is likely to develop at all in the foreseeable future.  As for telekinesis, pyrokinesis, or the other one, I don't think it is possible.

    If any of the above-described abilities are possible in humans, then it is likely that there is already an organism elsewhere in the universe that can do it.

  10. 1. The human brain is a physical object, and hence is bound by the laws of physics. Telekinesis, pyrokinesis, and transcendence of time and space are certainly physically impossible. Telepathy is an illusion. So, no on all counts.

    2. Well, personally, I don't believe so. But the universe is a big place; show me irrefutable proof, and I'll be convinced.

    3. How did I know you were going to try and trick people like that?

    And to answer your question, no, it is extremely doubtful. General probability dictates that an improbable event like that becomes almost impossible when one considers the improbability of the initial conditions necessary for it to occur. Even if that were the case, this being would have to be contained in the physical universe, negating the idea that God is omnipotent and outside of our realm of physicality. So, your logic is completely faulty.

  11. No.  Not in this universe with these laws of physics.

  12. I don't believe in anything that's physically impossible, that's why I don't believe in God.

    "Diciple of Christ": Your little comment just shows how brainless you are. Surpize suprize, it comes from somebody who claims not to be religious, but to be a Christian. Face it, I know it hurts you to believe that all your life, your summers spent in bible camp are all for nothing, but you're a religious nut, claiming not to be makes you even more religious.

  13. nope

    edit: and continuing to you're additional details  no and of course no

  14. Evolution is funny.Ha ha I came from a tiny little thingy squirming around in the nasty water.Oh and once I got here there was all this food already around here just for me to eat.Wow how on earth did earth know I was going to evolve into a species that would have to rely on clean water and food in order to survive.

  15. Answer to 1

    No

  16. Not so much.  

  17. 1) We don't evolve "to" something, we evolved "from" something. The driver for changes was Natural Selection. Who knows what our descendants will be, or whether extinction will be the future, after another million or so years.

    I doubt that any creature will arrive at a stage where they'll have the powers you mention, whether species evolved "from" us or some other species. But who knows?

    2) I doubt it, as above. But again, who knows? By the way saying "Who knows?" isn't a reason for believing there is.

    3) Even if something is possible, and we haven't concluded that a being having the powers you described in 1) is possible, that alone is not a reason for believing in it. You can make up anything that might or might not be possible; that isn't a reason for believing it to be real.

    I'm afraid that if you're trying to conclude that YHVH is real, I'm afraid I'm still unconvinced.

    I was once a devout Catholic, until my mid-late teenage, when I realised that faith was based upon nothing but itself, and that ideas about particles/waves of matter/energy and forces interacting with each other in space-time in a finite, yet boundless, expanding universe, satisfied me as explanation about how nature works. And the Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection is extremely impressive. There was no need for supernatural beings or God, which so complicated things that it was virtually certain they don't exist.

    I've read the Bible several times right through and refer to it regularly, because it's one of my interests. I wouldn't claim to be anything like expert, but I do have a good knowledge of it. I've also read the Qu'ran, but can't claim anything like the same knowledge as I have of the Bible.

    I'm interested in understanding why people believe deeply in things that seem to me to be clearly untrue. And I've been interested in religions, mythology, folklore, fairy tales and related matters since I was a child.

  18. 1) Um, no. X-men has nothing to do with real evolution or real mutation.

    2) No. Those abilities are physically impossible.

    3) They're not possible so your point is moot.

  19. 1.) No. But we would have awesome machines to aid us in our worldslaying invasions. Yes, we'll kill a bunch or aliens.

  20. I don't know enough about evolutionary patterns of the brain to say I know there's no way humans could evolve to have telepathy and what-not. But I seriously doubt it and wouldn't hold my breath for that one.

    There could be life on other planets, somewhere, but, again, no way to be sure. It would be silly to think that we are the only life in the universe. I just don't know what kind of life would be elsewhere, intelligent or non. I'd lean towards something being out there, just because in such a vast universe it seems unlikely that we're alone.

    Even if the hypotheticals stated in the first two questions were true, it does not mean that there MUST be a god. It simply means (in the case of the first question) that evolution is continuing its path as has in the past. What came before evolution, I don't know. But there's as much evidence to support god as there is to support the idea that the universe was poured out of a giant teapot. Life on other planets would likely have come to be the same way we did, so again, there's no evidence for god. We know we're here, we just don't know how. But just because we don't know doesn't mean we should try to explain it away with one word ("god").  

  21. 1.sure

    2.It's possible

  22. yes, definitely

  23. First Q

    Highly unlikely. Mostly because there is no need to do so. Since we can keep the weakest of our civilization alive these days, it seems more likely to me that we would reverse-evolve since people with bad characteristics can reproduce.

    Second Q

    Maybe. I mean, we could probably do most of that with machinery, why not the mind. Except, I don't believe time travel is at all possible.

    @DescipleofChrist, sourceplz, from non-religious site.

  24. Yes, but it probably won't originate from our minds.  We will probably develop other organs that could do such things.

    Anything that affects physical reality can be physically measured.  So such things will not be supernatural.  They will be just as natural as all of our other biological processes.

    2. Probably not, because we are in one of the oldest galaxies in the universe.  If any being was going to evolve into something like that, it would most likely be us.  (Asimov wrote about this years ago)

    edit - anyone see that lizo092whatever answer down there?  She's making fun of the idea that she comes from a tiny squirmy thing, hehehe.  Someone didn't pay attention in s*x education...

    3. No, it would not.  The god described in the bible has always existed, and created the universe, not the other way around.  The Judeo-Christian god has been disproven.  Why don't you just accept that, and move on?

  25. No.


  26. 1- yes,maybe

    2- yes ,maybe

    3-yes, maybe, although doubtful,  however its still not the religious god


  27. 1. I do believe humans or animals could develop any capabilities which are within the laws of physics. I don't think these include literally moving objects with the mind, reading other people's thoughts (although this is more reasonable in my mind), or creating fires at will.

  28. If you saw the original movie "Time Machine" (the black and white version) they propose that scenario.  After so many millions of years, the brain develops so much and to such an extent that people nearly lose their bodies to these giant-mellon heads and can do all sorts of nifty things like the ones you mentioned.  Personally, I think that the human brain is such a complicated, amazing and mysterious organ and that it has the potential to do a h**l of a lot more than we give it credit for

  29. Personally, yes, I do think that it is *possible*.

    Most Atheists (Some, but not all), have gone with the package deal on philosophy, and not only are Atheists, but are also part of the skeptic/debunker community...and there are certain things (some but not all of) the Skeptic community have declared impossible, so therefore, the universe must accept that it's impossible. So, most will declare that those things are impossible.

    (note that declaration of impossibility is different from being declared improbable, or not proved)

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    Second Question

    Postulate infinity, and much becomes possible.

    (I concede the possibility, but do not declare a positive)

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    possible yes, but being possible doesn't mean something exists.

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