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Today at school there was alot of discussion on the elections and mainly Obama. Alot of christians i go to school to with beleive he is the antichrist or something along those lines. others beleive that IF he is elected that he will reveal he is islamic and idk do terrible things to the nation. so whats your take on all of this?

Btw, i've always been raised a christian but i really dont know what to believe.

Bonus Q: Do you beleive in the whol 2012 theory?

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  1.      I guess you are a young guy and those "christians" too, so you can see rigth there how those kids get their opinions force into their minds by some adult that uses religion to orientate them politically, what evidence they have that he or anybody is the Antichrist??, they are just told what to think by somebody they trust and they just go on beleiving, How do they know what Obama will say if he is elected??All the mess we are in is because of Bush but Congress gave the OK for the war, so Congress is to blame more than the president, congress is alwais the enabler, a pressident can't destry a nation by himself, he needs help[


  2. *drinks*

    Time to learn what really is going in politics and to stop mixing religion with it. Obama is not the anti-Christ, nor will he usher in Islamic facism to our government.

    I suggest reading a good, insightful papers and good internet sites for what Obama is for. I suggest:

    Democratic Underground http://www.democraticunderground.com/

    AmericaBlog http://www.americablog.com/

    and Newshounds http://www.newshounds.us/

    for insightful news.

  3. im voting for obama .dont believe them ok there are different kind of christians one that believe in the truth or ones that use it for an excuse. idk what those people are but they arent christians. cause if they were they wouldnt be say c**p like dat. im christian. and imma tell u not all christians are right. dont blame us all for a few or ones mistake. and no i dont believe in the 2012 theroy the government said the world will end in 2006 too. and guess wat we still here. i beleive that the world will end when God says it will end. whether its before that time or after. noone has no say so on when this world will end.

  4. it didn't even occur to me that he could be the antichrist but if you think about it anyone could be I know someone that thinks that Opra Winfrey could be the antichrist but ya never know right? i dint think Obama is the antichrist though we just have to trust our instincts and hope for the best i guess but its really all based on your own opinion.

    And no i don't believe in the whole 2012 thing.

    well hope that helps ya  

  5. First, all these things are being said out of fear. People are afraid of him because of his name and because he is black. Certain people don't want him elected so they start these stories.

    Secondly, the great thing about our government is that no 1 person has that much power. Even if he did come out and say he is islamic what could he do really. Being islamic doesn't automatically mean your a terrorist. If he tried to do terrible things to our nation the least he would have to worry about is impeachment.

    Don't listen to the c**p!

  6. People have accused every president since George Washington of being the Antichrist. It happens each election cycle. The Roman Emperor Nero was the "anti-christ" alluded to in the book of Revelation although there are many "antichrists" according to John.

    Most christians have been brainwashed by the Conservative republican movement.

    I'm not sure about 2012, but just like the antichrist accusations, people have been predicting that we are in the last days for thousands of years. Each generation claims this, yet we are still here year after year.

  7. If anybody disagrees with fundamentalist Christian doctrine, they're looked at as the anti-Christ...All throughout history from the freakin Pope to now Obama, crazy fundies have considered numerous people the anti-Christ.  It's just c**p...Don't believe any of that garbage and just think for yourself.  I'm sure it's hard because it seems like you're probably in a Christian-dominated city but just think for yourself and don't let a book run your life.

    2012 isn't going to be the end of the world.  2012 is the end of the Mayan calendar and then another age starts up for them.  Don't worry about all of this end of the world nonsense and the best advice I can give you is to stay away from religion in general.

  8. Obama is not the antichrist. The Bible describes the antichrist up to his place of birth, and Obama doesn't fit the description. But you should also be aware that God has hidden the date of His return from EVERYONE, including the devil. So considering that, the devil doesn't even know. This means he will have to have an antichrist made ready at all times, because he'll rise to power right after Jesus returns.

    Oh and as for the 2012 stuff, it's just the date when the Mayans stopped working on their calendar. It doesn't mean anything; the civilization was destroyed because of famine.

  9. people are screwed up a lot these days.  

  10. Nah, Obama isn't the anti-Christ. That's been around for hundreds of years, and most Christians don't even realize it!

    I don't know what Obama really believes. His growing up years were heavily Muslim- father and step-father were VERY Muslim, and it's entirely possible that some of his subconscious feelings and beliefs are semi-Muslim. Not necessarily a bad thing, but to be aware- The main foundation of what people believe is generally set by the age of 3.

    Obama does claim to be Christian, and because I don't like to be told I believe something different from what I actually believe, I'm not going to do that to him.

    I don't know Obama personally, so I can't really say what he really believes.

    About the 2012 thing- I'm as worried about that as I was about 2000, which is to say, not at all.

  11. Pro.22:6  Train up a child in the way he should go, even when he is old he will not depart from it.

      Obama's early training was muslim from both his fathers. What do we know about Muslim's, 1) they want the world to convert to Muslim or die.  2) they want to destroy Israel and America 3) they believe it is ok to lie to a nonbeliever and don't think it is lying. 4) Obama's pastor reinforced his Islam teachings that America is evil. 5) Obama refuses to sing the National Anthem, because it is to violent????? 6) He refuses to wear a flag lapel pin because it might offend someone????

    7) Muslim leaders approve of Obama and want him to be our next president if nothing else convinces you that should.

    Bonus ? 2012 is too soon for the world to end. No I don't believe.

  12. I don't believe the 2012 theory because no one knows that a prophecy means until it is fulfilled.

    It is ignorant, even of christians, to just label someone the antichrist because they don't like that person.

    Also, don't think that if someone is elected president and turns out to be an evil man that they have control over the country, its not like "Ha,ha you elected me and there's nothing you can do about it you fools!"

  13. The most wonderful (and terrible) thing about childhood is that there are no limits on imagination.  Absolutely ANYTHING is possible to a young mind.  But as we grow up, we start to realize that some things are possible and other things are ridiculous.  Some of us call the faculty a "B.S. Detector" but it amounts to a practical, boring acknowledgement of reality.

    It is barely possible that Obama is a Muslim.  He was when he was three years old.  But since then he hasn't been to a mosque, he's always gone to Christian churches, and always spoken and acted like a Christian.  How long can a person keep up a deception without either slipping up or being converted by his own actions?  It is far more likely that John McCain's campaign managers are holding a whispering campaign to scare people away from Obama.  Look at Obama's record in politics and the community, BEFORE it was even possible for him to run for president.  That will tell you the truth.

    As for 2012?  My B.S. Detector is pegged and sounding off.  It's not the least bit believable.


  14. i'm for Mccain.  He's like me.  We share common ideas.  Plus he seems like a pretty well rounded guy.  

  15. I believe that it is not wise for the country or in its best interests to have a foreigner for President; that is just extremely unwise, esp. if he is a Muslim because of the ramifications that would bring on the nation later on.  I've heard that he is Muslim and then when the nation didn't take that news well, he said that he wasn't Muslim.  Hard to know what the truth is.  

    Also, it depends on what country he is really from; the Bible says that satan will come out of Syria.

    As far as knowing what to believe; believe that Jesus Christ died for your sins on the cross, and rose again on the third day so that we could be saved.  Never give up that truth no matter what happens.  

    John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His one and only Son, that whosoever believes in Him, shall not perish, but have eternal life."  

  16. First of all, Obama has declared himself a "proud Christian". He is not Islamic, although his father was. His mother raised him.

    People are so scared of him they'd say anything. The fact is, he's a decent human being, a Christian, an American, and he's actually trying to do some good.

    No, 2012 is just Y2K all over again. They've been predicting Armageddon since the dark ages. Then it doesn't happen, so they pick a new date.

    P.S. I'm a Christian and a Democrat. Who would Jesus bomb?


  17. I'm Christian and I'm voting for Obama.

  18. 2012 may not be far off coz the beast chip technology is now available and can be put into world wide circulation any day therefore we could be near that fateful day, How ever Obama may not be the antichrist coz he is supposed to come form the EU- the resurrected Roma Empire!

  19. i believe fundie protestents put way to much into the whole anti christ bag, especially when its not even mentioned in the bible.

  20. McCain alluded to it because he wanted to appeal to the evangelicals who have a huge vote in this nation.

    The Bible says that we will not know who the Anti-Christ is until he is already upon us. Obama is not in control of one government and one religion...so people suspecting him of being the Anti-Christ makes him not it.

  21. I think that something is not right with Obama. I don't believe he is a christian. I think people fears might be their gut instinct telling them that. And no I don't think the world is going to end in 2012.

  22. The antichrist is running Iran right now. As far as Obama being Muslim...who cares if he is? Being Muslim does not automatically mean that you hate America and want to abolish it.

    I will answer your bonus question on Dec. 22, 2012.


  23. I weep for the state of the American school system. Really, I do. In between the howls of laughter.

  24. I'm christian and I certainly don't like Obama, I don't think he's right for our country. At my school it's much different, everyone thinks they're cool if they support Barack Obama, and it annoys me because they don't know what either candidate stands for, they're just gonna like the one the media follows around. I do think he'll run our country down into the dirt and make us a horrible mess, and once he's done he'll freak out and run away. John McCain is much more experienced, and will probably do everything he can for this country.


  25. All I will say is we shall see.  Just don't go losing any sleep over it.

    God's will be done.

  26. I think this question is kinda impossible to answer. Not ALL christians believe the same way. The problem is that many people believe that not enough is know about Obama's past. And because of his heritage and his ancestors and also because of the way he was raised, many are skeptical about his religious affiliations. I am christian and NO, i do not think is the antichrist; but i do fear that we do not know enough about his past.  As for 2012; I am not certain. It says that no man will know when the end will come; but there are signs that point to it as the end. I am not certain on that one.  

  27. No, I don't think that Obama is the antichrist, although some seem to believe he is. I think that the antichrist will be from Italy or Europe (Obama isn't). I do think that Obama is a secret muslim but I don't think he will do anything terrible to the country.

    Bonus Q: no 2012 is just something silly, they also said the world was going to end in 2000.

  28. Unless there are sufficient evidences about the accusations, I will treated them as accusations to someones benefits. My suggestion is to apply critical thinking.

    2012 theory? Is it really a theory? I don't believe in predicted destiny. A trend or a theory, maybe.

  29. don't worry my dear, mc cain will win surely. don't believe 2012 world will end coz God will not tell us when,be ready anytime.

    God Bless.

  30. No.  Obama is not the Antichrist.  Not going to vote for him though.

    In the letters of John the antichrist is anyone who denies Christ.  Not some political leader.....the word doesn't even appear in Revelation.

    Bonus....2012 theory....NO WAY!

  31. I don't believe Obama is the antichrist because the Bible does make it clear that certain signs would follow him and none of them has yet.  

    Because he is a black man does not make him the antichrist.  

    Bush could be called that if you were to look at his administration and the bad he did for our country.

    The question about the 2012theoryy is one that can be debated.  The Mayancalenderr ends on 12/12/2012.  So many believe that could be the end of the world, since it is the end ofcalenderr time.

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