A question for england fans???

Question

i have been watching setanta sports news for the past couple of days and they really are shocked that England is placed 15th in the world... there are a few big names too which are giving there 10p worth on the matter! complaining about being one place above Scotland and croatia is fifth.... i find this disrespectful to other nations.... is this just the media or do ordinary england fans think that there team is the best thing since sliced bread and should be in the top 5??? i'm a Scotland fan and to be honest i think you have one of the best individual players in the world but as a team are nothing special!!! maybe yous should pick players who are not going to have issues against each other (top 4 team players) and play players who want nothing more than to just play for their country

Answer 1

I think the team is better than 15th, but I also think the rankings and even performances in tournaments don't indicate the true position of a team.

Look at the last world cup. The 2 finalists were absolute garbage through the whole tournament, especially the eventual winners, Italy.

Answer 2

15th? How did they manage to get that high? They didn't qualify for Euro 2008. Problem they have is right through their culture - the English (British) Empire superiority complex. The rest of the world has moved on dramatically. The English never have. They look stupid for it.

There is no national pride, just conceit.

LONG MAY IT LAST ! lol

Answer 3

You kinda answered this in your question.  The problem that England have is that the players who play outstanding football in the premiership just go missing when they put on the England shirt.

Please dont take this the wrong way but man for man England have better players than Scotland in most positions.  That said Scotland play as a team and have pulled results off in the last couple of years that they shouldn't have won on paper.  It shows what a team spirit can do - this is what England sadly miss and it is not easy to get.  England have lost games that they should have easily won.

The Fifa rankings are also worked out on a bizarre method that favours the none football playing areas.  For example Cameroon are ahead of both England and Scotland and yet you would have thought that if they played tomorrow either Scotland or England would win.

So with all that yes the Fifa rankings are about right that said I think that England do have the potential to get a top 10 place back soon.

Answer 4

If england win their games...do well in the olympics...qualify for the euro cup...do great in the world cup...then they would climb the ladder of sucess. but at the moment they suck

Answer 5

To be honest we shudnt even be in the top 15 because i mean we didnt even get to the Euro's which means 14 teams at least are better than us (excluding switz n austria because they didnt have to qualify) and i think some England fans are dillusional but most are just genuine. The media blow things completely out of proportion. These days England dont have the grit and determination of the past teams. We need players who wear their hearts on their sleaves.

Capello has seen this and calling up Jimmy Bullard is genius. Finally the squad isnt picked by names but rather by who is playing the best.  

Answer 6

You're not far off the mark, there mate.

Jamie Carragher said it all the other day.  What's happened to the time when it was the highest honour to walk out onto the Wembley turf in an England shirt and bleed your way to victory if necessary?  Caragher only said what we all know is true of "ehrm"...Gerrard.  When has he ever given England a tenth of what he gives the scousers?

That's what annoys me most about people who get on Beckham's case.  Okay, so he's a spoiled, thick, skirt wearing pretty boy, but he loves his country and is prepared to fly half way across the world to sit on the bench and give his all when played.  Those hundred caps mean something to him.  

You're not wrong about Londoners - the whole South East is like that.  Miserable gits with no time for anyone but themselves and their wallets.  They've no clue about the basic geography of the rest of Britain because they're so up their own cockney backsides.  And for what?  London's no less of a shitehole than Glasgow.

The fact that nobody seems to care that Setanta have got all the bloody football matches is endemic of our fatuous, image led "society".  

It's probably more exciting watching Scotland.  You can be realistic about your chances and you know your lads will give anyone a good game for the sake of pride.  Our lot just ponce about restyling their hair and expecting the opposition to roll over because England are such a big team.  

We had our best chances between 1998 and 2002.  We blew them.  Time to go back to the drawing board and work out how to get some goals out of the likes of Crouch and Defoe and where the h**l to play Rooney so he doesn't waste his energy covering up for the lack of effort the other ten are putting in.

Having said that, I'll still be trawling round town looking for a pub to sit in and watch us look shite on Setanta with a bunch of beer sodden pikeys and chavs.

Answer 7

agree with you there it is disrespectful , dont get me wrong on paper .. england have a top 5 team DEFINATLEY! individually we do not deserve to be lower than number 5 , but for some reason england dont seem to work well as a unit. no disrespect to any smaller teams such as scotland .. but man for man england are a better outfit.. they just dont seem to play well together... the media has a massive influence .

Answer 8

15th is about right when was the last time they done anything. overrated bunch of money grabbers who are more interested in their hair and style rather that playing their guts out for their nation

Answer 9

English arrogance is nothing new - as a Scot you should know that.

Ed - ah but the English that move north aren't typical, they're northerners at heart....

Answer 10

im suprised we are as high as 15th.  

Answer 11

I agree with everything you just said - they think they should be in the top 5 just because they are "england" but this has to be achieved and they havent done it - they are just not good enough.

If there's one thing i can say about Scotland its that we have a great team spirit and a will to win - england all want to bettr than each other and moan about who's on the best salary and who plays for the better team!

The Old Firm get a lot of slagging from people but when it comes to scotland game - whether it's Rangers captain or Celtic captain - it does matter, country before club!

Hopefully Scotland will overtake them in the rankings soon, then there will be an uproar, lol!

Answer 12

England 15th Really????? They bloody deserve it their performance against the Checz Republic was awful. No matter who is in charge the team play the same, how is it possible? We have the biggest names lampard, gerrard, rooney. They can perform for their club but when it comes to their country they seem like league one players.  

Answer 13

Answered by scotland forum regulars?15th place is not bad for a team that is not much better than Scotland.

Answer 14

The problem is that many people, including the media, expected England to do better than they have done recently. Not qualifying for the Euros was just shocking, considering who else we had in our group. So they have this sense that we should be higher than 15th, because of where they expect us to be, although the results don't lie!  

Answer 15

ive never taking interest in ranking position at all, its pretty meaningless at the end of the day

Answer 16

well at the moment we deserve to be 15th.......we didn't beat any great teams......

scotland did really well in their euro qualifications............they we're really unlucky not to qualify..

yes we have soem of the best players in the world,but they can't play together.......

at the moment we deserve to be 15-hopefully after the world cup qualifiers we'll be a placed a lot higher.....

Answer 17

England football team is just a nation of flops but i would say that the press have contributed..... I generally dont even bother to read the paper after england have played because you know what the papers will say..

They scrutinise EVERY SINGLE COACH we have and when i say this i mean they absoulutely LAY into them after EVERY single match which is annoying, and then they got the one coach that did well for us (eriksson) fired.... The press are @rseholes but the players have NO excuse for ot qualifying and the fact is that for some reason when they put the england jersey on, nistead of representing our country with honour they turn into primaddonas who really do play some embarassing football...

I have no idea why they do it, no one does ... people say it is because of the foreigners ... Yeah that it!! Let's all Blame the Foreigners!! I just dont understand why everyone who wears a england shirt turns into a circus clown..