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A question for evolutionists: Why are you trying to prove that man evoled from apes when you know that can't

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  1. I think its more ridiculous that people think some all-powerful dude decided to put us here, with apes, trees, amoeba, black holes and neutron stars.

    What's wrong with trying to find proof of where man originated? Better proof than blind faith with no evidence.


  2. Evolutionary theory DOES NOT maintain (say) that humans evolved from apes. The theory states that humans and apes descended from a common ancestor that has been extinct for millions of years. Because of a drastic climate change in Africa following an earthquake, and the subsequent creation of the Rift Valley, humans evolved in one climate while apes evolved in the other.  

  3. how do you know????

    can u prove that bible or any other religious books like Quaran  are right???

    till anything is proved u cannot argue whats wrong and whats right!!!!

  4. If you mean evolutionists as in people who believe in evolution as opposed to scientists of evolution? It's like there is nothing to make evolution look wrong? its like saying "why do you believe water boils at 100 degrees celsius?... i mean the only proof you have for that is a thermometer" - wth? you wouldn't say that right?

    okay now i think about it - your joking aren't you.. haha well i fell for it :P

  5. Actually, it is quite clear it did.  All apes, including humans, descended from a common ancestor -- the "proto-ape".  Humans share genes with chimps that are not shared with gorillas and orangutans.  It should be noted that the Creationist term "can't happen" means "happened, but I'm sticking my fingers in my ears and going la-la-la".

  6. I guess some of us feel that there is a beauty and a wonder in the connection of all things.  In my case, I'm interested in the how and the details of that connection.  I feel connected to all of the life around me.  And I know that all things alive have DNA that uses the same genetic code in DNA and for protein synthesis, something we didn't know that even 50 years ago.  I see no contradiction between knowing how all this stuff works, evolution, and what I imagine is your presumptive statement that this is somehow a contradiction between this and a belief in God.

    Demonstrations of how evolution works are all around us, and it's a beautiful thing.  The details are tough to expose and understand, especially now that we can carry that explanation down to a molecular level.  But we do understand, and we can explain most of it.  And the stuff we can't explain is fun to work on.  It's a challenge to see just how far our God given brains will take us.  I don't know what created the universe, that is a power that I give to God.  And somehow that power set in motion the events that created me and everybody and everything else in the universe.  And in that process (which I call evolution) we developed brains that could look at this stuff and try and figure it out.  Now how cool is that!

    Even the creation story of the bible starts with the simplest life forms first and only later do we get the more complicated stuff...

  7. Andy the "university professor" must be a professor of literature, not biology.  LOL.

    We did indeed evolve from apes.  "Ape" is an inclusive grouping and includes forms both extant and extinct.  Humans are still classified as "great apes."  You're a great ape.  I'm a great ape.  Your parents are great apes.  So are mine.

    Apes evolved from Old World monkeys.  "Monkey," too, is an inclusive grouping, including forms both extant and extinct.  Our last monkey ancestor was about 22-25 million years ago.


  8. Anyone who knows something about evolution knows that humans did not evolve from apes.

  9. Oh noes!  You've exposed our sinister plan.  

    Who'd have thought that we would have been brought low by an inflammatory comment without any supporting evidence!  Especially one posted by someone who has done absolutely no research and shows ignorance as to the basic components of the theory that he protests!

  10. "Evolutionists" are not trying to prove that humans evolved from apes.

    This is for a couple of reasons:

    [1] science can NEVER "prove" anything - only demonstrate that it is likely, possible, or impossible.

    [2] humans ARE apes. We are members of the Hominidae ("Great Apes") family of primates, along with chimpanzees, gorillas, and orangoutans.

    The evidence (from many, many different branches) is strongly in favour of humans and other apes being very closely related. There is anatomical, fossil, biochemical, and genetic evidence which all points to this.

    Humans (and all other apes) evolved from a common ancestor several million years ago.


  11. How do you know? The similarity between apes and humans is enough to consider it. And scientists being scientists, they want to see if it is true or not. They chose to try and prove it is true, which is the only way something can be proven.

    If any scientific evidence comes along that would completely disprove it (and not marginally), then the theory will either have to be reconsidered or disregarded. But no such evidence has yet come to light.

  12. What "evolutionist" is trying to prove that?  What is an "evolutionist" anyhow?  You really have some basic understanding of how evolution works before you go bashing it.  

    If Christians came from jews...why are there still jews?  

  13. The genetic evidence points toward common ancestry between modern apes and humans.  For example, apes have 24 chromosomes, humans have 23 chromosomes, and the evidence suggests a fusion of two ape chromosomes, thus giving humans chromosome 2.  

    http://www.thetech.org/genetics/ask.php?...

    http://www.gate.net/~rwms/hum_ape_chrom....

    http://www.evolutionpages.com/chromosome...

    All this points to humans evolving from a more ape-like ancestor.

    Apes probably came from Old World monkey-like ancestors, and they might have came from a lemur-like ancestor, and so on and so forth.  Anatomical similarities as well as DNA similarities help us to see which species are related to each other.  


  14. b/c you're a douche, gtfo

  15. On what basis do you say that we "know that can't happen"?

    How do you know what we do or do not "know"?

    Why are you accusing us of being so deceiftul?

    Do you have any evidence ... any evidence at all .. that 'evolutionists' are arguing a position they *know* to be false?

    Or do you just not like us very much, so you accuse us of deceit without any evidence?

  16. when you know that can't happen...well actually we evolved from a common ancestral link with the apes...but irrespective of that....I would like to remind you that science is not a democracy..nature's laws are nature's laws  and like it or not evolution is a fact....Looking at the Bible as a source of fact..umm, well this book was written by men in a male dominated society at a time in history when people were REALLY REALLY REALLY scientifically ignorant.Ergo....they believed the Earth was flat, the Earth was the center of the Universe, demons caused disease, and base metals could be transmuted to gold among many many many other equally unenlightened things. Believe what you want..but before you say..."everybody knows that"...you better have your data in hand.... Your argument from personal incredulity is the latch-key of most antievolution drivel.

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