AL Cy Yound winner......Dice-K Matsuzaka?

Question

I'm not a Sox fan, but I like his chances of Winning Cy Young. Cliff Lee has better numbers, but his team is horrible and most MVP and Cy Young winners play for a Playoff Team. You can argue that Dice-K is the Ace of the Sox's pitching staff (Beckett is not doing good this season) and he throws some nasty stuff on the mound. The only knock on him is that he walks to many batters and his pitch count gets way to high early in the game.

Heres Dice-K's stats:

13-2, 98 Ks, 2.90 ERA, and he only gave up 8 Hrs.

Answer 1

no he is a great player though but i think its Ervin Santana baby go angels there gonna win the world series there great

Answer 2

the cy young is super win biased.  Unfortunately, if you play for a bad team, or if you miss several starts you dont have a good chance of getting it.  And no, he wont get it.

Answer 3

I am a Red Sox fan. That being said, I don't see Dice K winning the AL Cy Young award. Why? He is a 5/6 inning pitcher and walks to many batters. I think the Cy Young award this year will go to Krod, the Angels closer.

Answer 4

He Has a Chance Like Mussina.

The Cy Young is normally individual and Cliff Lee has the best individual Pitcher stats in the American League.

Answer 5

Hmm.  I am a Red Sox fan and I've never really considered Daisuke as the ace of the team.  Beckett is pitching well, he just hasn't gotten as much run support as Daisuke, and Lester has been phenomenal.  So anyways, I suppose Daisuke does have a shot because his numbers are very good.  But the amount of people he walks is sort of scary.  I guess if he gets his walks down, and innings up, he might be a strong contender.  But right now, my money's on Lee with Halladay and Saunders as my runner's up.

Answer 6

I think Mike Mussina and Cliff Lee have a better chance than Daisuke Matsuzaka.  

Answer 7

Lee's numbers: 16-2, 128 K,2.45 ERA, 128 K, and he have  only given up 7 homers.  Lee's WHIP is much lower than Dice-K's too: Lee's WHIP is 1.08 and Dice K's 1.33.  So statistically its not even close enough.  I would hate for Lee not to win it.  Just such an outstanding year.  

EDIT: Well many critics and im not gonna lying, even myself, thought Lee was going to start slipping a while ago, but yet again he keeps proving us wrong.  He's showing no signs of slowing down.  

Actually while lee can continue pitching how he always pitches, Dice K gotta change his mindframe.  He will see the tough Yanks offense a lot down the stretch as well.  Now hes gotta battle with the mental game too.

Answer 8

Let's not forget that Lee plays on a team that produces no where NEAR the offense for him, that Dice K's team produces for HIM.  Also, The Red Sox' bullpen has Papelbon to anchor things down, and is a MUCH stronger unit overall, than the Indians'.  Lee has overcome all these extra hurdles and has produced a career year, for a losing team.  His ERA and WHIP are both superior to Dice-K.  If you're rooting for Matsuzaka, you better hope Lee DOES fall apart over the last 5 weeks; that's the only way your guy can win the Cy Young.

Answer 9

AL CY CLiff lee

Answer 10

Though he often goes over looked, and despite his record and win to losses ratio, I dont think he will win it.

Lee is more dominant, pitches more innings, strikes out more, walks a whole bunch less, only gave up 7 HR in over 160 IP, and much better WHIF, 1.08, compared to Mats 1.33.

For that matter, despite his losses, and that due to his teams poor offense, if Mats is in talks of  The Cy, then Halladay should/could be as well.

Clearly though, Lee is right there, with Saunders, K-Rod, Rivera, MUssina, and the above in his shadows.

Answer 11

not just yet...hes playing very very good but i think cliff lee has an edge on him right now...but theres a lot of baseball to be played...but daisuke is a consideration

Answer 12

You have got to be kidding me?

Answer 13

Why he shouldn't win:

20 starts - 114.2 Innings Pitched

That's an average of 5 2/3 innings pitched a game...thats' not very good for a starting pitcher.

He has a good era, gets run support and gets a lot of wins.  he wins games, but he doesn't do much to help his bullpen.

Joe Saunders and Cliff Lee will fight it out.

Answer 14

That is an interesting observation. I didn't even think of him in the Cy Young talk. He has the numbers, but I highly doubt he will win it. Lee's are just better.

Answer 15

You got that right. 10 pitches per hitter. strike 1, strike 2, ball 1, ball 2 foul ball, ball 3. foulball, foul ball, foul ball, ball 4. Same next hitter except after 8 ptiches he strikes out. etcetra etcetra etcetra and finally 5 innings is over. and maybe several base on balls and a hit here and there 1 or maybe 2 runs come of it. Seldom goes past 5 or 6 ininnings. Umpires are no help either though. They mostly give the borderline strike/ball? pitch to the hitter. I don't know why? But they all do that. Anyway thats his usual game. He gives me a headache to watch it. I tell him just throw the ball right down the middle of the plate.  Besides who can argue with success? Nobody. And then theres that gyro ball who knows where that goes but they miss it everytime. They can't hit it.  

Answer 16

what about Cliff Lee  15-2 with a 2.58ERA?  7Hr's if anything the fact that his team can't manufacture runs makes him look even better

Edit: i get the feeling you have something against Cliff Lee is that why you would rather it go to Matsuzaka?

Answer 17

he has a chance but it may be too early to tell

Answer 18

Roy Halladay ... he just doesn't get any run support.

Better ERA than Dice K... same wins... same .85K/IP...

Where Halladay really stands out though is complete games and shutouts.  Dice K has yet to throw a shutout, or a complete game.  Halladay has 7 complete games and 2 shutouts.

The problem with Dice K is that he's not economical enough with his pitches... he gets into a lot of jams... he has a 1.33 WHIP which is very high for an "Ace": in fact, it's probably not even in the top 50 in the major leagues... Halladay's WHIP is only 1.05: third best in baseball.

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