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AR 15 question, and gun value question?

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I know a lot of people who are saying that next year there will be another assault weapons ban like the one in the 90's.Do you think it will happen in 09?I am wondering because I always wanted a AR-15 and I don't have any money rite now and I won't have any extra for a wile.I plan on buying parts and have my father put it together for me.This weekend I am going to trade in my Mini 14 (181)series and a S&W Highway Patrolman for as many of the parts as I can get.How much in store credit do you think I can get for these two guns?They are in good condition.Also do you think I should get rid of these two guns to get a AR?

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  1. With the election looming and the thought of Barack Obama being in office, I'd hesitate on getting rid of any guns that you have.  Save up your money and buy the gun you want and keep the ones you already have.  


  2. KEEP THE S&W!!  They don't make them like that anymore!  If you get rid of that, you'll regret it.  Maybe not now, but soon, and for the rest of your life.  How many will get that quote? ;-)

    Sell the Mini - they aren't all that accurate, anyway.

    Buy the receiver now, work on the other parts a bit at a time.  The reciever is legally the gun, so that will be the part that becomes hard to get if the idiots have their way.

  3. a15 cost around $1000 to $1500 and if u are lefthanded look in to stag arms for ur rifle thay are the only plasce the makes the office left handed rifle and thay make right handed rifles too


  4. My policy is to never trade off perfectly good firearms for any reason. I learned this the hard way. Hang on to those to fine firearms. Instead do this: pick up a copy of "shotgun news" at barnes and noble or other book stores. Go thru the ads and find a stripped lower receiver from a quality manufacturer. A good price is as close to $100.00 as possible. Brands like DPMS, Olympic arms, Rock river arms just to name a few, are all good quality. Next, contact a local FFL dealer at one of the gunstores. Have them let you have a signed copy of their FFL so you can send it to the company that you want to buy the lower from. The company will ship it to the dealer you use, and he will charge you right around $25.00 to do the paperwork and you can pick up your lower receiver. BATFE has ruled that this serial numbered lower IS the firearm, and is the only part you need to go thru a licensed dealer for. You can buy all other parts direct. If you own this part before any ban goes into effect, it should be grandfathered in. Then save some money up and instead of buying different parts that may or may not fit right, save up about $475.00 plus shipping and order a complete kit from www.MAPARTSINC.COM  I have built many ar rifles and carbines and have found that they have the best kits out there for a very good price. All of their kits come with the heavy match barrel already attached to the upper, and headspaced and test fired, this alone saves you the cost of having to pay to have it headspaced, and saves you the labor and needing special tools to assemble the upper (you should buy the tools anyway from brownell's just so you have them if needed in the future, but you can buy them at your leisure). Anyway, just my humble opinion.

    Shoot safe

        

  5. i got a used ar-15 for 600 bucks..almost new and it works great. so i have a ar-15/DPMS in a 308 for 1000 bucks from a gun store, brand new.. i made a few changes to it and it works great. keep the other guns kiddo..its no use selling them your not going to get what you want anyway...its like selling a used car..bummer.  

  6. I think you should look into buying a stripped AR 15 lower.

    You can get a decent one for a couple hundred dollars.

    Then you can save for a lower parts kit and stock. The lowers aren't too terribly hard to assemble.

    Once you have the lower you can choose to save for an assembled upper for about 500 or so depending on what you want or build one up.

    Check out the Build it your self forum on AR 15.com and see if that helps.

    http://www.ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=...

    I would buy a stripped lower over trading stuff that's in your collection if I were you.

    Also not voting for gun grabber Obama is a good idea too :)

    I hope that helps

    Kurdis

  7. I expect the 2nd ammendment to be abolished without really being abolished with obama. Remember he doesn't trust you, eve with your own decision making. With McCain I don't expect that as he has voted against bans and taxes in the past. I worry more about ammo prices. Then people say he will institute one when he had opposed the 1994 ban. I have at least one of all the guns but I wan't but I wan't multiples like another ak and sks. I am going to get a stripped lower receiver,  two trigger parts kit and a spare bolt for the ar I already have.

    It's ammo and magazines is what I'm gunnung for this month. Remember, the socialist wants to ban every centerfire caliber. I already have tha handguns I wan't.

    Just what to get next: 700 rounds of 7.62x39 and some ak mags or 500 rounds of .40S&W and a couple .22LR bricks? Both are around the same price.

    Edit: Skeptical is right keep, the S&W sell the mini 14. Get the receiver first. Parts you can worry about later as they don't count as guns. You can buy a parts kit online for $600 and you can get a receiver for $130-$150 depending if your state has a sales tax. But remeber, magazines are going to important too.

  8. KCX,

    I build match AR's.

        The only thing you need to do to insure you can own an AR-15 in the future is to simply purchase an AR-15 stripped lower.  These are bought just like they were a rifle - same paperwork.  You can find some like Superior Arms as low as $95 each or for a name brand like Rock River $145 each.

         Once you have all the parts - you will also need the $400 in special tools and somone with 10 years experience to build it.  No doubt you can handle most of this yourself - but - you really want someone with knowledge to install and headspace the barrel plus use a trigger jig to mate the hammer and sear.

         That said....... I have never installed a new barrel that did not headspace perfect.  And I have never pulled a trigger and sear from a bin of parts or parts kit that did not function correctly.  Rough trigger - but servicable.  The headspace is mostly peace of mind and required for military personel to do on assembly - a factory defective barrel can hurt somone.

         Bottom line - keep the mini-14 as your 'plinker' - buy an AR-15 lower - and start picking up some nice high quality components as time goes on.  In a year or so you should be able to assemble and own a truly great match rifle.  

    Another considerations once you get the lower - buy 'takeoff's since most people buy a complete AR-15 and then start removing things and adding the new improved versions......... buying these takeoffs is a very, very, inexpensive way to get a stripped lower operational!

    Hope this helps  

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