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I have heard a lot about the death of Mirza Qadiyani, since lots of people told me about his death. How did he actually die?

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  1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversy...


  2. Of course he must have died that shameful death. I mean, no big deal. He was an one of those 30 liar dajjals, after all.

    And do u expect the Qadyanis to have propagated his embarrasing manner of death? No, LOL, they're going to conceal the story as much as possible. But the truth leaks out...

  3. Who cares how he died, he died and he has met his akhira.

  4. I've heard a few things.

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    Prophets

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    Volume 4, Book 55, Number 543:

    Narrated Abu Huraira:

    The Prophet said, "Allah created Adam, making him 60 cubits tall. When He created him, He said to him, "Go and greet that group of angels, and listen to their reply, for it will be your greeting (salutation) and the greeting (salutations of your offspring." So, Adam said (to the angels), As-Salamu Alaikum (i.e. Peace be upon you). The angels said, "As-salamu Alaika wa Rahmatu-l-lahi" (i.e. Peace and Allah's Mercy be upon you). Thus the angels added to Adam's salutation the expression, 'Wa Rahmatu-l-lahi,' Any person who will enter Paradise will resemble Adam (in appearance and figure). People have been decreasing in stature since Adam's creation.

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    Volume 4, Book 55, Number 544:

    Narrated Abu Huraira:

    Allah's Apostle said, "The first group of people who will enter Paradise, will be glittering like the full moon and those who will follow them, will glitter like the most brilliant star in the sky. They will not urinate, relieve nature, spit, or have any nasal secretions. Their combs will be of gold, and their sweat will smell like musk. The aloes-wood will be used in their centers. Their wives will be houris. All of them will look alike and will resemble their father Adam (in statute), sixty cubits tall."

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    Volume 4, Book 55, Number 545:

    Narrated Abu Salama:

    Um Salama said, "Um Salaim said, 'O Allah's Apostle! Allah does not refrain from saying the truth! Is it obligatory for a woman to take a bath after she gets nocturnal discharge?' He said, 'Yes, if she notices the water (i.e. discharge).' Um Salama smiled and said, 'Does a woman get discharge?' Allah's Apostle said. 'Then why does a child resemble (its mother)?"

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    Volume 4, Book 55, Number 546:

    Narrated Anas:

    When 'Abdullah bin Salam heard the arrival of the Prophet at Medina, he came to him and said, "I am going to ask you about three things which nobody knows except a prophet: What is the first portent of the Hour? What will be the first meal taken by the people of Paradise? Why does a child resemble its father, and why does it resemble its maternal uncle" Allah's Apostle said, "Gabriel has just now told me of their answers." 'Abdullah said, "He (i.e. Gabriel), from amongst all the angels, is the enemy of the Jews." Allah's Apostle said, "The first portent of the Hour will be a fire that will bring together the people from the east to the west; the first meal of the people of Paradise will be Extra-lobe (caudate lobe) of fish-liver. As for the resemblance of the child to its parents: If a man has sexual intercourse with his wife and gets discharge first, the child will resemble the father, and if the woman gets discharge first, the child will resemble her." On that 'Abdullah bin Salam said, "I testify that you are the Apostle of Allah." 'Abdullah bin Salam further said, "O Allah's Apostle! The Jews are liars, and if they should come to know about my conversion to Islam before you ask them (about me), they would tell a lie about me." The Jews came to Allah's Apostle and 'Abdullah went inside the house. Allah's Apostle asked (the Jews), "What kind of man is 'Abdullah bin Salam amongst you?" They replied, "He is the most learned person amongst us, and the best amongst us, and the son of the best amongst us." Allah's Apostle said, "What do you think if he embraces Islam (will you do as he does)?" The Jews said, "May Allah save him from it." Then 'Abdullah bin Salam came out in front of them saying, "I testify that None has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah." Thereupon they said, "He is the evilest among us, and the son of the evilest amongst us," and continued talking badly of him.

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    Volume 4, Book 55, Number 547:

    Narrated Abu Huraira:

    The Prophet said, "But for the Israelis, meat would not decay and but for Eve, wives would never betray their husbands."

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    Volume 4, Book 55, Number 548:

    Narrated Abu Huraira:

    Allah 's Apostle said, "Treat women nicely, for a women is created from a rib, and the most curved portion of the rib is its upper portion, so, if you should try to straighten it, it will break, but if you leave it as it is, it will remain crooked. So treat women nicely."


  5. He died of the disease cholera, and yes, in the toilet, in his own stool (diarrhoea). This was from Allah - a disgraceful Death - to evident how this dude was a hoax, therefore deserved to die in such dishonour.

    EDIT: the1qfactor, even if I was to provide authenticty, or Hadith to prove my claims, you will disregard them, or say I've misquoted them, or "mistranslated" as you have been doing all day. That is your only argument to unfeigned sayings of the Prophet (Pbuh) However, regarding the above, an old teacher of mine told us Mirza Qaidani died in a toilet. He told us in a way of poetry......

    Excuse my Urdu ... "Qaidani agar hotha Allah ka phegumbar, tho wo na martha tatti k andar"

  6. In the bathroom, he had diarrhea.

  7. he got shot in the head.

  8. He died a natural death of old age.

    The things you heard are propoganda.  If anyone claims that, and they are truthful, let them bring forth their proof.  Otherwise, they should fear Allah.

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    @p**i Chap - AA brother,

    If you have any righteousness in you, then please cite an authentic reference to your claim of how he died.  Otherwise, know that Allah is ever watchful and ever aware.  Peace.

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    @p**i Chap - Forget mistranslations or interpretations.  Like "keepinitreal" who offered an actual reference, you claim that you are truthful with a disgusting 'poem.'  

    Do you not realize this is exactly how the Jews would insult the Prophet (sa)???  Do you not realize that your teacher is mimicking the Jews of the time of the Prophet (sa) with his behavior?

    I say again dear brother, find me an official reference or recant your statement.  You will be called to account as we all will.

    Bani Isra'il Chapter 17 : Verse 37

    And follow not that of which thou hast no knowledge. Verily, the ear and the eye and the heart - all these shall be called to account.

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    @ Maryam - Actually if you study your own Ahle hadeeth scholars, even they admit in writing that in their estimation, the 30 liars had already come and gone.  This was in the 1850's, before Hazrat Ahmad (as)  made his claim, when he was a young man in his 20's.

    love for all, hatred for none

  9. Assalamo Alaikum!

    Here is the account from his biography "Ahmad the Guided One" by Iain Adamson:

    "He felt ill during the night and doctors were called.  They did what they could to treat him, realised that he was seriously ill.  He lapsed in and out of consciousness.  

    At the time for morning prayers, he asked, "Is it prayer-time?"

    One of his followers, standing beside his bed, replied, "Yes Sir, it is".

    He then made the signs of symbolic ablutions and started praying.  He lost consciousness in the middle of the prayer, but then recovered and started again, finishing it slowly.  He was then semi-conscious, but whenever he recovered consciousness he could be heard repeating, "O God, My beloved God."

    His wife, his sons and daughters who were in Lahore and his most immediate disciples were now gathered around his bedside.  His wife had remained calm and in constant prayer throughotu the night now knew that death was approaching.

    As the agony of death began, she said, "O God he is leaving us.  Do not forsake us at this time."

    At 10:30 it seemed to those around him that they heard him breathe deeply twice.

    Then he died."

    He did not die on a toilet nor did he die in any other manner.

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    Muslim who believes in the Mahdi

  10. Here's a nice link, with the original manuscripts about it used too.

    You'll see he died in his bed.

    http://www.qadiani.org/death.html
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