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Adoptees, what do you think of NCFA?

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I'm starting to realize that I signed on my support for whatever was sent my way without thinking about it. I just got an email from NCFA, and thought I'd ask what this org is all about and what you think of it.

There I go tailoring my opinions to adoptees again. Geez, you'd think I was planning to bring one of them home or something. Oh wait, that's right, I AM planning to bring one home. THAT's why I care what you guys think. Duh.

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  1. Um...  My instant reaction is "Satan incarnate."

    A more considered response would take more time, but would boil down to "Satan incarnate."  

    They oppose adoptee rights.  They also seek to increase the number of adoptions, as though breaking up families was somehow a noble goal.

    I really don't want to sound flippant.  But I really, really don't like them.  And not because I oppose all adoption, but because I don't think we should be trying to find ways to increase adoption, nor do I support any group that seeks to continue discrimination against adoptees.

    ETA: And look...  The NCFA faerie has been by  to give us all our thumbs down.


  2. WOOOOHOOOO

    I know who rejected reject is now!!

    It's been bugging me for days !!

    I knew they were in my list of contacts, but for the life of me I couldn't figure it out !!

    You get a star Gaia for solving it for me!!

    Oh.. c**p... I better answer your question before I get a violation for this not being an answer...

    Ok the NCFA.. they suck. pick them off the bottom of your shoe & flick them away.

  3. I don't think I could answer without using profanity.

  4. *(^*^*&%(%*&$^%&#*&_)&*%*&$*%$%)(&&....

    "Lauren's" first / natural mom

    Sam's mom

  5. I can't add anything to the fantastic responses above.

    Except....

    Even if I had never heard about them, any organization that would actually publish a booklet titled "Birthmother, Good Mother: Her Story of Heroic Redemption" would make me hurl.

  6. Thomas Atwood the president is an adoptive father. The NCFA was originally formed to counter a bill that was appearing to have a good chance at being implemented into law, it would have made a required parenting time of 2 weeks with the mothers, would have unsealed adoptees records, and fathers were given more rights as well as something about a pre-placement home study which I don't quite understand. This was called the model state adoption act.

    So some CEO's of the adoption agencies get together and decide they don't have the time or money to do whats asked of the govt. if the Model State Adoption Act gets passed and they create an organization to "work against" the bill. That organization is now the NCFA.

    They are the largest opponent to sealed records. They get huge amounts of donations from places like Gladney, Bethany, some Peruvian Adoption agencies, and a lot more.

    I wonder what Mr. Atwoods 17 y/o son thinks of his dad who's the president of the nations largest anti adoptee organization.  Thats one man, I would not like to adopt me.

    Heres a telling little blog on their income :)

    http://musingsofthelame.blogspot.com/200...

  7. Not happy.

  8. they're our enemy.  bad ncfa!  bad!  bad!!!

    yuck!  bad bad bad!!!!!

    they hate the thought of us having rights.

    also, i think they are intensely into coercing natural moms.  bleeeeeeeeech.

  9. The NCFA is the enemy.  They are a group that was formed by adoption agencies as a political mouthpiece that fights to keeps our records sealed.  They were formed by agencies, primarily Gladney in Texas, at the end of the1970's when recommendations were made to reopen records in states that had sealed records.

    Here is an excerpt from the article "SEALED RECORDS AND ADOPTION REFORM: An Historical Perspective by Shea Grimm"

    'The National Committee for Adoption, now the National Council for Adoption, is inarguably, the leading force in sealed records and the adoption status quo. It's no surprise, since they were formed for the express purpose of maintaining the sealed status quo, and in fact, for strengthening it. The year was 1978, Carter was in the White House, and sealed record systems were firmly entrenched worldwide, but most particularly in the U.S. Carter convened a panel of independent experts in the field of child welfare to address the issue of 'special needs' adoption, and to draft some model state legislation. The panel instead came up with a Model State Adoption Act that threw open records to adult adoptees, and instructed adoption agencies to serve as intermediaries in searches by birthparents for their adopted children. It is at this point, that a very telling period in modern-day adoption reform commenced. In response to this legislation, whom do you suppose formed a lobby group designed to defeat it? Hearing the arguments of the sealed records supporters, one would assume that legions of birthparents would have rallied to try and uphold their promised and desired confidentiality. Or perhaps legions of adult adoptees would organize to send a message of their happiness with their silenced status. Well, that didn't happen. Instead, it was the Edna Gladney Home, an agency in Fort Worth Texas, who went to its supporters, comprised mainly of adoptive parents, to raise money for a lobbying organization to defeat the open records provisions of the Model State Adoption Act. The result was the National Committee for Adoption. The NCFA and at its helm, William Pierce, convinced Senators such as John Tower and Jeremiah Denton to argue that open records threatened adoption, and when Reagan took over the White House, the original Model State Adoption Act had been supplanted by an anemic version that did away with the open records provisions, as well as many other reforms. The shortened act formed the basis of the Uniform Adoption Act currently making the rounds in several state legislatures.'

    http://www.b******s.org/reform.htm

    ETA:  Phil, you're too funny -- but so right!

  10. Agree with everyone......I believe I will toss my cookies. I am thinking of a succubus.....no wait a HYDRA....when you cut off the head two grow back in it's place.

    I have seen the literature.....Patronizing SOBs

  11. *rolls up newspaper*

    "Bad NCFA! NO! Bad, naughty, naughty NCFA! We do not ruin lives for profit! Bad NCFA"

    *whack*

    AWWW! Thanks. That makes twice today someone told me they loved me and I didn't have to sell you a $1000 car door for $350 to get it!

    Seriously I'm all about the yahoo girl crushes... in my mind you and Samone are fighting over me LOL.

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