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After (and if) Earth comes close to destruction, will climate change deniers be hunted for bounty?

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After (and if) Earth comes close to destruction, will climate change deniers be hunted for bounty?

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  1. Who is going to do the hunting on Mars since that planet is going through the same climate changes that the Earth is?

    How about some questions based in fact instead of emotion?


  2. No the liberal grennies are don't hunt, cowards.

  3. Destruction or coming close to it is not going to be evident very soon, so current deniers will be safe. They can pretend to have been onside all along by the time we know for sure.

    But not also that what you call deniers come in a lot of different shades.

    We have those who deny that warming is occurring,

    those who are not convinced that human activity is primarily to blame, but who agree that it is happening,

    and then we have those who acknowledge a major human contribution, but are not convinced that we can stop global warming, feeling that we need to take actions to mitigate what we will not stop.

    Now any of those positions might induce people to give up, not try to stop AGW. That would be unfortunate, but remember that a large part of the population has never taken so much as one university level course in climatology. Even  a lot of people writing popular columns have no university level science background.

    We should not be surprised that they are viewing this as a political issue. These people do not spend their time reading Journal Science. So just how did you ever hope to get the message to them? Prophet Al? No, that guy comes to the discussion, first day, saying the discussion is over, you guys have lost it. This was before these people have ever had any part in the discussion.

    That might work where everyone accepts the scientist as high priest. In America it leaves one large group of people saying 'You have not bothered to convince me.'

  4. Why wait, bring it on now and we'll see how that works for ya!!!

  5. the destruction will be an ice age not due to AGW

  6. You can only make this statement because of your bias.

    In Geology we know about the damage of a single volcano, flood, ice storm, drought, hurricanes, typhoons, earthquake,

    fires due to lightning. With abundant food and water animal populations increase and strip the vegetation bare, causing starvation.

    The cycle is constantly striving for homeostasis, or balance, as you say.

    We as humans need to allow euthanasia on demand, abortion on demand at any stage of the pregnancy, recycle dead humans into fertilizer for crops, terminate all pregnancies with deformed, fetuses, allow terminal ill to choose euthanasia, allow suicide centers for all those wishing to do so from age 12 on, allow govt grown and taxed mood altering drugs, terminate all obese humans due to the cost of their medical care, free medical care, food, clothing, education. The United Nations will ban warfare. Provide free trade among all countries, free housing for all. Form a govt committee to ban crime, UN to ban disease, govt supported 4 week vacations at govt expense, free tanning salons for all white people, free bleaching salons for all people of color, free tickets for Manchester futbol games, schools to ban homework, students to be paid for grades, teacher salaries to be equal to top sales staff of commercial companies,

  7. You know Virgil, the thing that impresses me the most about the deniers is none of them seem to know their right from their left.  A Communist is the extreme Left.  A n**i is the extreme Right.  The Communist State is Totalitarian, owned by the people, encompassing every aspect of their lives, and existing solely at their sufferance.  Communism is the idealized form of Socialism.  A n**i is a type of Fascist.  A Fascist State is Authoritarian.  The citizens exist solely to serve the State.  The government has absolute authority so there can be a single National will and purpose.

    Hence there are no "communist n***s", "socialist n***s" or any of the other political misstatements deniers seem prone to.

  8. Religious fanatics need an excuse, not proof to go on jihad.

    AGW believers routinely call Skeptics "deniers", so you may rest assured the Holy War is at hand.

    And this crowd makes Islam look like the poster boy for religious tolerance.  

    Life thrived on Earth hundreds of millions of years at CO2 levels in excess of 3000ppm.  (current level ~380ppm) but we all know the fossil record doesn't matter to the deeply religious.

    Deniers will become infidels,  Infidels will become the criminally insane.  Let the AGW Socialists gain power, and it will just be standard policy to shoot a few 'deniers' after any big storm.

  9. You know Virgil, the thing that impresses me the most about the deniers is none of them seem to know their history, Krakatoa erupting 800 years ago, I have never claimed to be great at math’s but Krakatoa erupted in 1883, not even close.

    I particularly like your comment about the ice age in the 1200s and expanding ice, because if you had checked before making this up, you would have found this is right in the middle of the medieval warm period (AD 800 to 1300) and the Vikings were farming in Greenland. and they didn't leave till the 15th century.

    Cliff F: I am well aware of the history of Krakatoa and it's eruptions, I saw no point in mentioning the previous eruption as its date was further out of date than the 1883 date and I saw no reason to make Virgil look any sillier. It would seem a mute point as Virgil has deleted his answer anyway and has taken his fact (or lack of them) with him.

  10. This is a loaded question. It is geared to get a reaction. Perhaps you are lonely and smart. Loney and smart... that makes you a bit skeptical, and perhaps a little sarcastic. That's what you hide your own brand of fear behind. I see you.

    Some of us, the ones out here, observing what is going on. We have our finger to the pulses of the earth, the pulses of nature.

    Like a rider with his hand lightly on the rein, sitting loose and balanced in the saddle, we ride our way though all these questions, and answers. Looking at the lay of the land, clicking on links, reading this/ that... taking in snippets of imformation, adding them to our own expreince.

    Just like you, we see prices rising, tensions rising, temperatures rising. The heat is being turned up. We know it.

    The rumble of "the world " reaches us...a vibration in our feet, in our bones...and it tells us to... "listen up!"

    We too are scared. We too wonder what to do. Some of us are even doing something. Like me, I'm a farmer practising farming in the old fashioned way, the way taught me by my great grandmother...

    I truely understand, that no matter what I do to prepare for what is to come, it is not enough. Death comes to all, one way or another. Life is the preparation for the ultimate shock.

    I teach kindness, the art of hospitality and simple farming to others, this is my calling, my gift to humanity: to have kept many of the old crafts alive.

    To answer your question: anything is possible.

    Acts of humanity,  will exist amongst groups of people living together, in communities. On the edges and weaving through, Inhumane acts of cruelty, will also exist. We define our civility, or lack of it, by these things. When civility slips, civilization slips. None of us are protected, we are all at risk of loosing it ourselves, or of being in a place where civility is lost by others. The rich, the poor, the middle class... equally in danger. In some places it will be worse, in others better.

    At the edges of civilization, historically speaking, bounty hunters appear.

    I will not be numbered among the bounty hunters.

  11. No, because by their very nature they will deny having denied it and will (again) blame the scientists for not telling them it was going to happen or they will claim Al Gore pushed the GW theory forward using reverse psychology, knowing if he put it forward they would have to deny it, so if it does happen its still his fault, for telling them it was going to happen, standard denier logic.

    arcanum70 - Cool  you talk about fact & emotion and bring in Mars as well all in 2 small paragraphs

    Ah the Mars is warming theory what about Pluto it is also warming, but deniers have stopped mentioning it, because it has warmed by 3 times the amount as Earth which means something else is the cause

    The Mars link to solar warming is the work of Habibullo Abdussamatov this is a pointless and easily disproved theory.

    a) If the Sun were warming it would affect all objects in the solar system, it isn't

    b) The sun is monitored constantly, no increase in output has been observed (SOHO Satellite)

    c) Habibullo Abdussamatov, head of space research at St. Petersburg's Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory in Russia.

    Pulkovo is little more than a derelict Museum.

  12. The fanatics are the people who subscribe to their AGW beliefs!

    They neither accept or comprehend basic science.

    This, along with arrogance, gullibility, ignorance and stupidity, make them the really dangerous people in our current society!

    I have to explain to Dan R, that Krakatoa has erupted many times in it's past. The eruption in 1883 which you so proudly refer to was only the latest and best documented major event.

    Another major explosion occurred in 535AD.

    While Virgil may have said it happened 800 years ago and not closer to 1500 years ago is beside the point!

    You either seem to believe that Krakatoa only erupted once, or you are deliberately trying to throw a 'smoke screen' in an attempt to discredit valid facts.

    I will also disagree with 'Tuba' about his comment that there is no such thing as a 'Communist n**i' or 'Socialist n**i' today!

    I happen to think (while not being technically correct) are quite accurate descriptions of where the 'AGW'  movement  really stands!

    You do not accept science, and you are willing to use every deceptive 'trick in the book' to impose your beliefs on the majority! This includes brainwashing of our children in schools into your belief (no matter how noble yet mis-guided your cause).

    Is this not what the n**i's did?

    I almost forgot to answer you question!

    When you get to my age, and have seen all of the insanity that has, and still happens!

    Nothing really would surprise me!

    Especially when radical elements take control as they currently seem to be!

  13. If the Libs have anything to say about it, yes.

    I wonder if we can hunt THEM  down when the world DOESN'T die as advertised?

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