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All three presidential candidates are on board the global warming?

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train. Is there anyway to knock some sense into anyone of them?

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  1. You can be jailed, tortured, and held indefinitely for even joking about knocking sense into a presidential candidate.  No doubt CIA surveillance has picked up your threat and automatically opened a file on you and filled it with your financial records, medical history, credit card purchases, and a while lot more.  They probably have pictures of you from MySpace or online photo albums.  Your email's already monitored, but consider your phone line tapped now as well.  Welcome to Bush's War of Terror, on America.

    Here's what knowledgeable people have to say about global warming:

    Ex-heads of EPA blast Bush on global warming

    Republicans, Democrat say president is neglecting environment

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10913795

    WASHINGTON - Six former heads of the Environmental Protection Agency — five Republicans and one Democrat — accused the Bush administration Wednesday of neglecting global warming and other environmental problems.

    “We need leadership, and I don’t think we’re getting it,” he said at an EPA-sponsored symposium centered around the agency’s 35th anniversary. “To sit back and just push it away and say we’ll deal with it sometime down the road is dishonest to the people and self-destructive.”

    All of the former administrators and EPA’s current chief, Stephen Johnson, raised their hands when asked by the event moderator whether they believe global warming is a real problem, and again when he asked if humans bear significant blame.

    But agency heads during five Republican administrations, including the current one, criticized the Bush White House for what they described as a failure of leadership.

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    We got hijacked after Bush failed to act on his campaign promise to reduce carbon emissions.  Given McCain's abysmal record of votes on environmental issues, I'm afraid he'd turn out to be just as dishonest.  Unfortunately by not holding Bush to a higher standard, the Republican Party has turned out to be the party of enormous lies (or maybe I just started noticing).


  2. It can't be done at this point because AGW is popular. Presidential candidates will always fall on this side. Some studies have shown that the more research done on the debate by individuals = fewer believers. This is the good news. People are beginning to question and become more skeptical, despite the media's overwhelming bias toward belief. That's really pretty amazing.

  3. There are a lot of politicians who are inclined to use AGW to support their agenda whether it's nuclear power, increased taxation.  Also writing cheques to private companies without getting anything tangable in return is one way to shore up campaign funding.

    Most intelligent people understand that environmentalism is more of a crusade than a science.  Environmentalists do not make objective researchers as they have preconceived notions about the immorality of human impact on the environment.

  4. Easy, change the polling results.  They'll say whatever is popular, then do what ever they want once in office.  With all of them saying the same thing, this shouldn't be a distraction this election year.

  5. If by that you mean convince them to start pretending global warming isn't a threat or is "just a theory," no.  All three are "on board" because the evidence proves global warming is real and a serious threat.  The real question is: can anyone knock some sense into the crackpots who keep insisting otherwise?

  6. big money and large energy companies will corrupt them for sure

  7. First you'll need to "knock sense" into the vast majority of scientists in the world.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_...

    http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/fu...

    Don't forget these guys.

    "Former Republican House Speaker Newt Gingrich challenged fellow conservatives to stop resisting scientific evidence of global warming"

    "National Review (the most prestigious conservative magazine) published a cover story calling on conservatives to shake off denial and get into the climate policy debate"

    "Pat Robertson (very conservative Christian leader) 'It is getting hotter and the ice caps are melting and there is a build up of carbon dioxide in the air.  We really need to do something on fossil fuels.”

    "I believe there is now more than enough evidence of climate change to warrant an immediate and comprehensive - but considered - response. Anyone who disagrees is, in my view, still in denial."

    Ford Motor Company CEO William Clay Ford, Jr.

    "The science of global warming is clear. We know enough to act now. We must act now."

    James Rogers, CEO of Charlotte-based Duke Energy.

    Then, the vast majority of world leaders.

    Then, the majority of people.

    http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/a...

    And these organizations:

    The National Academy of Sciences, the American Association for the Advancement of Science, the American Institute of Physics, the American Chemical Society, the American Geophysical Union, the American Meteorological Association, etc.

    They all say global warming is real, and mostly caused by us.

    Good luck on that.

  8. The only thing that will convince them will be a global cooling period, but as we've seen in the past month, even cooling is caused by global warming. See how simple it is, everything fits the theory now because it's no longer global warming, it's now climate change that's the danger.

    The fact that CO2 is the boogeyman, despite the fact that we've had levels of CO2 4 times higher than at present - during an Ice Age - means nothing at all is odd. If it is so important and temp increase always follows CO2 increase, then that ice age is hard to explain. 400 some million years ago CO2 levels were 19 times higher than today and temp was only 10 degrees C higher, which is the horrific increase they talk about. Yet apparently that increase will take a few thousand years since we don't add enough CO2 to the atmosphere to make it happen faster than that.

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