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Alternative energy vs. drilling for more oil?

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Is this a true statement?

If the US does more domestic oil drilling, the oil companies get richer.

If the US develops alternative energy (wind, solar, etc), this would create a whole new industry and create more new jobs.

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  1. the reality is that yes the oil companies get richer, but who owns the oil companies? if you have a 401k, or other retirement plan, if you own mutual funds, then you own part of the oil companies. most of the stock of an oil company is held by the average american, or retirement fund managers. as for alternative forms of energy, the oil companies ARE developing these forms of energy. the problem is that the infrastructure isnt in place, and people wont buy cars without the infrastructure, and the automakers wont build cars if people wont buy them, and business wont invest in the infrastructure if there are no cars using the fuels. things are changing slowly, and that isnt a bad thing. we cant change our transportation system over night. it took us 100+ years to get where we are with gasoline, to expect other forms of energy to come online in 5 years is asking far too much.


  2. let me start off by saying Hydrogen is a great option for the concept of free energy.     I built my first hydrogen cell about 5 years ago. Have converted over 50 vehicles in the last 10 years (gydrogen and EV) and now currently run 2 trucks (and another EV), my home hot water heater, home stove and home generator on hydrogen for free with caught rain water and the help of a $10 solar panel.  I offer a step by step DIY guide to walk anyone interested threw the process. You can find it at www agua-luna com or you can email me.

    There are basically 3 safe ways to make and use it... chemically, electrically and molecularly, the first 2 being easier so I'll only discuss them here. The fallowing steps were taking directly out of a DIY guide I offer to those who would like to run their vehicles or home on hydrogen safely. The entire guide is available at www agua-luna com

        On demand h2 generators are a bit different from the Hollywood versions like seen Chain Reaction with Keanu Reeves, that tend to explode violently every time a film is being made. However when used in an on-demand system there is no storage of hydrogen and oxygen in its gas form, only liquid (water) and is only transformed into gas “on-demand” in small cylinder size amounts. It’s actually safer then gasoline as it doesn’t evaporate, creating explosive fumes in the tank like gas. the following were actually taken out of my $5 guide available at www agua-luna com

        Chemically

        1. You’ll need a 6inch x 1ft schedule 40 pvc pipe. With pvc cement glue a cap on the bottom and use a s***w on cap for the top. Drill a small hole (1/4inch or so) in the side close to the top, s******g in a small copper shut off valve. Place a few feet of stranded (food grade is good) flex hose to the valve and into the air intake of your engine (carburetor or fuel injections).

        2. Now crunch up a couple aluminum cans (beer cans, soda cans etc) and drop them into the pvc pipe, along with a couple cups of lye (Red Devil drain opener has lye in it, some Clorox and Drano’s do to).

        3. Then simply add water, s***w on the top and wait a few minutes.

        What happens in simplicity is that aluminum and lye don’t really get along so they battle, and as always the innocent civilians (water H2O) that the most casualties, by giving up its hydrogen and oxygen. This then builds up in the void of the pipe and is ready to be vented into your engine, by opening the valve. You may need to start your engine on gas then switch it off after the hydrogen starts burning.

        Electrical is a bit easier then Chemically.

        1. Simply take a small solar panel 1.5 amps is what I use ($9 at harborfreight.com), connect the 2 wires from the panel +- to 2 conductors (carbon cores of batteries work well, just be careful removing it from the jacket), but any conductive material will work ie. Copper, aluminum, steel, etc.

        2. Drop the wires into a water tank (I use 55gal drums), make sure they don’t touch each other.

        3. Drill a small hole (1/4inch or so) in the side close to the top, s******g in a small copper shut off valve. Place a few feet of stranded (food grade is good) flex hose to the valve and into the air intake of your engine (carburetor or fuel injections).

        4. Then simply add water, s***w on the top cap and wait.

        After a few hours tiny bubbles will form and rise off one conductor (that’s hydrogen) and even smaller bubbles that just looks like foam will rise off the other (oxygen). I don’t remember which likes the positive and which likes the neg hydrogen or the oxygen.

        The third method is more complicated and is what I use for my vehicles. It’s just a modified Joe’s Cell, there’s a step by step DIY guide available to walk you threw the process here www agua-luna com

    It also covers the other 2 methods described in more detail.

    www agua-luna com

    Hope this helped, feel free to contact me personally if you have any questions if you’d like assistance in making your first self sufficient steps, I’m willing to walk you step by step threw the process. I’ve written several how-to DIY guides available at  www agua-luna com on the subject. I also offer online and on-site workshops, seminars and internships to help others help the environment.

    Dan Martin

    Alterative Energy / Sustainable Consultant, Living 100% on Alternative & Author of How One Simple Yet Incredibly Powerful Resource Is Transforming The Lives of Regular People From All Over The World... Instantly Elevating Their Income & Lowering Their Debt, While Saving The Environment by Using FREE ENERGY... All With Just One Click of A Mouse...For more info Visit:  

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  3. Yes, those are both true statements.

    We can do more domestic oil drilling, but the thing is, it won't have much impact on oil prices.  The oil companies already have 34 billion barrels worth of oil untapped, and politicians are just proposing to give them another 8 billion.  It won't make any difference.

    http://climateprogress.org/2008/07/10/th...

    I don't have a big problem with adding those 8 billion barrels as long as the states approve it and there won't be too much environmental impact, but the bottom line is that it's not going to lower gas prices by more than a couple cents per gallon.

    If we increase renewable energy there are so many benefits.  We decrease our dependence on foreign oil, a limited resource.  We decrease all kinds of nasty emissions, including greenhouse gas emissions.  We create new green collar jobs to benefit the economy.  We develop a 100% domestic power infrastructure.  It's a far better solution than just trying to drill our way out of our energy problems.  Drilling is a short-term solution, and not even a good one.  Renewable energy is a long-term solution.

  4. Very true.

    Oil companies and people who make a living on oil future market don't want alternative energy become popular.  There is no wind futures and solar futures to trade.

  5. This a very true statement. However, we should do both b/c:

    A) drilling for more oil can help save the world from running out of transportation. However, the more we drill the more money we need behind it. Also, getting more oil puts the atmosphere at risk b/c more fuel=more cars=more carbon in the air=more heat kept in from the sun=DOOM!!!

    B) What you said about alternate energy sources is right. However we still need more money. With the jobs though there is a problem b/c we might just do remote interface with the products we make=less jobs.

    C) My opinion: we should do alternate energy first so we can finally step into the future without as many side effects as the oil drilling.

  6. why don't we do both? drill for oil for short-term relief, while developing alternative energy for the long term.

    the two aren't mutually hostile situations, they can work with each other.

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