Angering woman-haters Part Two?

Question

There was a question posted here the other day about why some women who are overweight dress and act like they are attractive. The poster's tone was angry.

It got me thinking...that his message really was, "How DARE women I have deemed to be worthless because they don't meet my standards of beauty have self-esteem and live romantically fulfilling lives?"

We get a lot of trolls on here proclaiming that women's worth is intermixed with whether they meet an arbitrary standard of beauty.

But let's face it...most women who wish to marry get married...whether they are fat, thin, attractive, homely, etc.

Do you think some prejudice, be it misogyny, racism, etc. is aggravated by the bigots' frustration that the group he hates or wishes to repress fails to care about his opinion?

Answer 1

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Maybe he just looks like that and ranting on Y!A is easier than a decent diet/fitness programme. :-P

Answer 2

yes even what some people term as a unattractive women, if she has self confidence, can and will get married, and run that marriage if she wants. It's just a method of undermining a women's self confidence to control them. Because men fear otherwise a women will master them.

Answer 3

Moreover, he's angry because his stereotype is proving to be false, and that's obviously one of the few things to which he was able to hang on.

Answer 4

Close but I would state it slightly different.  Prejudices are aggravated by the "success" of the group and/or the failure of the bigot.  Overweight person appears happy and self confident while the bigot is not happy with his/her life (thus the prejudice anger).

Answer 5

Yup.

That poster sounds like a real piece of work. And shallow too....there are plenty of guys out there who are happy to marry plus-sized women because they are smart enough to realize that she is even more beautiful on the inside where it counts than she is on the outside.  

Answer 6

No, I don't that prejudice is aggravated by frustration of having the object of your hatred fail to care about an opinion.  There is a good chance that a person who is what you call a bigot, is so closed minded that he or she won't care about other peoples opinions anyway.  

That being said, I believe your question is somewhat bigoted. In your question you wrote:

"Do you think some prejudice, be it misogyny, racism, etc. is aggravated by the bigots' frustration that the group he hates or wishes to repress fails to care about his opinion?"  

With that quote in mind,  I personally have come across more women who comment on clothing worn by larger women than men who comment on the same.  Your comment may be geared to the original poster, but you yourself have extended that persons tone to men in general with your comment. I don't think this is a fair assessment of an entire gender without looking at the whole picture.

Again, to answer your question: No I don't think prejudice is aggravated by a person's frustration with an oppressor or hater.  Although i could be wrong.  Does it bother you that i don't care what your opinion is?

Answer 7

Don't know.  Does it matter to you if I don't care about your opinion? ;-)

Answer 8

IF your question is "do i think that women hating trolls secretly crave attention from women and thats why they act like they hate them" then yes, i would say that is probably fairly accurate

Answer 9

I think some people are just here (in GWS) to p**s everyone off and he was probably one of them . If this is his honest feeling on the subject then we should be feeling sorry for him and his narrow minded views on his fellow human. He will eventually realize the error of his ways and never be able to make for the time wasted being hateful. Anyway, my husband always saids that if a woman wants a man she can get one no matter what she looks like. It's the men who will spend their hole lives looking for a woman who will accept them. This has alot of truth to it. I am sure if that poster was at an event and an average woman hit on him he would eat up the attention. Let's be logical, he is spending his time on GWS spouting off about his "standards", If he is so hot him self he should be busy fighting off all the hot girls who are after him right?

Answer 10

I have a friend, she has a pretty face but has always been a little over weight even back in high school.  She doesn't really carry it well either tbh.

However this girl has one of the most positive, outgoing personalities, she is confidant and flirty.

She has never had a problem getting a date, or BF....getting married in a few months so she hasnt gotten the hubby yet.  Many of them have been very good looking, nice guys.

My point, there are men who will look at nothing but a womens body however there are men who look past that look at a woman mind and personality.  So we really shouldn't mess or worry about those who cant do such. Leave the shallow people to the shallow people....seems fair they get each other anyway.

Answer 11

I like things that are aesthetically pleasing; rolls of fat and epic cellulite spilling out of ones clothes is not. That goes for both sexes.  

Answer 12

Yes. It is so horrible to hate someone or lookdown on them and they don't even care!!!! Nothing hurts more then being ignored and having your opinions disregarded! Yeah to all the big girls!!!! Cudos to the homely!!! Props to the misfits and the outcast!!!! We all have our own worth and our own beauty.  

Answer 13

I think that is part of it.  I think besides the fact that the individual he hates or wishes to repress fails not only to care but then succeeds in  having a better life then he does.  

Answer 14

What you are describing is human nature, whether you like it or not.  Nothing infuriates a person more than watching a person they deem to be worthless becoming successful and happy.

Its a sad statement about who we are as people - but its an accurate one!

Answer 15

I don't find chubby and overweight women attractive..

Answer 16

Well Tracey, I look at it this way. A mind is a terrible thing to waste. So if this person wants to waste its energy and whatever brain cells it has to conjure up these silly little ideas it doesn't make a bit of difference along with all the other gripes & complaints this person has spewed out lately. I just don't know how far this thing got when attempting to stir up a wasps nest on that day but I did see it as well and passed right over it.

Answer 17

I don't know if that is completely true.  I do think that part of any anger towards others is jealousy.  If I beleive that I am a "better" person than someone else, but they acheive more, I am bound to feel some resentment.  As far as the specific case of overweight people goes, I have two thoughts.  First, I only have a problem with fat people who make it sound like everyone who is not attracted to them is a bigot.  Being fat is not like being black or white or latino.  It is something that could be changed if they wanted to.  Therefore, if you gross people out and they react like they are grossed out.  You have nobody to blame but yourself.  Society sets the standard of what is and is not attractive.  The individual can decide whether or not they want to participate.  However, it is ludicrous to choose not to participate and then lash out at society for being treated differently.  Overweight women who dress to show just how fat they are; are tantamount to me rolling in dog c**p and wearing a speedo.  Do you think people would treat me different?  Of course they would.  I am grossing them out.  Second, you said that most overweight women don't care.  You are wrong, most DO care.  They are just too lazy to fix the problem so they would rather sit around and blame society for their problems.

Answer 18

I think there is always anger when he OR SHE who is racist/sexist/etc. meets a group that defies their standards or beliefs.  Its not very surprising.  For example, think of the labels applied to women who chose to work instead of stay at home (bad mothers, going against God, anti-traditional, etc.) or against fathers who may want to stay at home and care for their children (bad males, going against God, slummers, etc.).  There is always a hateful voice against those that break the norm and live happily when others are so against their choice in life.  Think also about those who are g*y/L*****n-- they continually suffer through labels and name calling simply because their sexual orientation does not agree with what some deem as "right" or "moral".