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Animals being meant to be eatan?

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im a vegetarian; have been for about 6 months.

and my family doesent support it.

they keep telling me that animals were made to be eatan;

which i know they wernt.

what are some scientific reasons they werent;

i wanna convince them that they wernt.

& is there anything in the bible that says they werent, also?

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  1. naturally, animals are simultaneously meant to be eaten and not to be eaten, they evolve in a way that makes it more difficult to be eaten, and predators evolve in ways that make it easier to eat animals.

    but lets take the example of man. man doesnt want to be eaten. even after we are dead we fill our bodies with formaldahyde or we burn ourselves, but one thing is for sure, we think we are above natural decomposition and being eaten in any form, even after we are dead.

    And lets switch that to ranching. we have taken animals out of nature so that we can better eat them. Not only are we too good to be part of the food chain, but we think animals arent good enough to be part of nature, they are only food. is that messed up?

    Our culture is engrossed with death, and finding ways to deny death and pretend it doesnt exist.

    hmmm i want to keep ranting, but my work day is up. im sure someone else will pick up where i left off.


  2. there are certain animals that yes indeed were made for eating, cows and chickens were especially made by god for us to survive on, goats also give us milk, sheep keep us warm, horses were given to us to try and tame and help us plow field to grow stuff.

    if you look in the first chapter of the Bible, Genesis will tell you that the plants and animals were all put there to support God's greatest creation. Us.

    there's nothing wrong with wanting to protect animals, but i guarantee you there are members of the ASPCA and the humane society that enjoy a thick and juicy flank steak every once in awhile. but the next day they'll go out to a farm where someone's been malnourishing cows and stop them. It's all about balance.

  3. animals are meant to be eaten if they werent animals would be over populated and if everyone was vegetarians there wouldnt be buff guys and healthy guys its also not healthy to be only vegetarian u need some meat in ur system to get protein. one person being a vegetarian cant save the animal population without humans eating meat what would this world be its just part of the human cycle to eat meat

  4. Uhh... what kind of animals? I don't think cats and dogs are meant to be eaten, but animals like pigs... what else could they be for?

    That probably doesn't help. Sorry.

  5. People are made of meat, too.

    Maybe "god" put us here to also be eaten, someday.

    Ever see the movie BAD TASTE? ; P

  6. Sorry, dude, but all animals, even us, are meant to be eaten.  

    Animals fall into three basic categories:  herbivores, carnivores, and omnivores.  Herbivores eat mostly plants and have flat teeth designed to grind and mash-up their food.  They also have eyes on the sides of their heads to protect them from sneaky carnivores and gullets that are capable of digesting cellulose.  Carnivores have blade-like and/or dagger-like teeth designed for cutting through and ripping meat.  To aid them in hunting, carnivores' eyes are located toward the front of their heads to provide stereoscopic vision.  The final category, omnivores, are a mix of the previous two.  Humans are a perfect example.  Like carnivores, we have eyes in the front of our heads and quite a few teeth designed to cut and tear through meat.  Like herbivores, we have the ability to survive on a vegetarian diet and flat teeth designed to grind-up our food.  We have much longer intestinal tracts than most carnivores that helps us, much like dogs, digest plant nutrients.  We also used to have the ability to digest cellulose, but have lost it over the period of a few millenia.

    If you or I were to fall in some remote forest and die, we would be eaten by quite a few animals.  Larger carnivores would eat the major tissue off our bodies.  As we decomposed a little bit, scavengers and even some hebivores would take the now-softened protein off us.  The whole time, a bevy of insects and microorganisms would be at work taking everything of value off our bodies until we eventually became fertilizer for the forest around us.

    As omnivores, we are meant to eat meat when we can and survive on plants when we must.  However, most people in 1st world countries eat far too much meat and are completely out of balance with the diet that is best for our bodies.  As a vegetarian or vegan, you will have to work carefully to get balanced, complete sources of protein your body needs, especially if you are physically active.  This would be easily attainable with 2-4 oz. of meat a day or a few eggs a week.

    ETA:  The stomach acid thing is actually wrong.  We have very powerful stomach acids.  We can and do eat raw meat all the time.  I eat sushi and prefer my steak bleu.  Freshly killed meat is pretty safe to eat, as it has little chance to get an ouside infection, but meat fed to animals in zoos must be handled according to some very stringent practices to ensure outside microorganisms to not contaminate the food and make the animals sick.  The more we handle and process foods, the more opportunity it has to be contaminated.  Wild animals (and even domestic ones) get foodborne illnesses all the time.  We just seem to care more when humans get sick than when a colony of rats dies off.

  7. The bible says they were mostly

    sorry

    xo

  8. The next time it comes up, simply say "God may have created animals to be eaten, but he didn't create factory farms, and he would NOT approve."

  9. I am a vegetarian and who cares if we were suppose to eat meat.  Our dental makeup says that we are natural omivores.  Tell your family to stick it where the sun don't shine and say you are making a healthy choice for you life and don't support the way that animals are killed in the meat packing industry.  If you have to do all this to convince them...its never going to happen.  Good luck though!

  10. Here are a few arguments you could use from a biological standpoint:

    If we compare man to animals we can clearly see that one was specifically designed to eat meat and the other was not....let's use a lion as an example.

    ~First, the lion possesses long claws for killing his prey. He also has long, SHARP fangs to tear the raw meat. Human nails and teeth pale in comparison.

    ~Speaking of raw food, the lions don't have to cook theirs before consumption. Their stomachs are equipped with the proper stomach acid needed to prevent illness. Man must cook his food first.

    ~The intestines of a lion are very short. This means that the meat stays in his body for a short amount of time while it absorbs nutrients. Within a few hours, the waste is expelled. Man's intestines are extremely long. This indicates that our digestive system is more conducive to processing vegetation, as it stays in our stomachs longer. When meat stays in our system too long, it can cause cancer and studies have shown that meat literally ROTS in our stomachs before it is expelled. This is unhealthy on many levels. (Have you ever seen a lion getting a colonic? lol)

    In a nutshell, our stomach acid isn't strong enough, our digestive tract and process is too long and we don't have the teeth to attack our food.

    Hope that helps!

  11. Well, you're both wrong. Sorry to say, but someone HAS to say it, if you're asking..

    The premise is dopey.. that something is HERE because it's "meant" for humans to use, eat, whatever.. it's here because it's here. Animals were here LONGER than humans, so you can't tell a Frenchman that the frog/meat he's eating was put here for him -- because frogs go back a million years MORE than people/mammals.  Same with snakes, turtles, fish and chickens... THINK about it.

    People, like apes and dogs and cats and bears will eat just about anything.. when they're hungry.  People ate INSECTS early on, and choose not to (more often than not). Being a vegetarian is you choice, and modern people make choices about diet -- if they: 1) HAVE that choice, and are not starving and 2) can work a healthy diet that replaces proteins, etc. and 3) are smart enough to know what they're doing, and don't apply azz-backwards logic to others, which can harm them.. like that dopey NY couple that only fed their child LETTUCE for its first few months.. until it died at 8 months old of malnutrition.  

    Picture yourself hungry, 5,000 years ago.. walking and seeing a rabbit. If you think you'd walk another 100 miles looking for berries or something growing (which might be poisonous, for all you know)... and depend of the SEASON and what's ripe etc. etc. when there's a tasty, belly filling rabbit for you and your 'clan' etc. and lives depended on it -- guess what would be for lunch.

  12. Well it does say not to eat certain animals. Like Pig and shell fish. You can start there.

  13. That sounds a bit proud! Us humans have more or less taken over the world and now we decide to say "You were born so that we could eat you" People have got to learn that what is in the world, just happens to be in the world and it is not there for any particular reason e.g. to feed us. I am sorry if I have trampled over some beliefs!

  14. Well, im not a beleiver that it is completely unnatural to eat meat. But i also know that the factory farmed meat is cruel and  full of c**p and it wasnt like that when jesus was alive.

    we are wasting resources to produce meat. The meat industry pollutes more than all the vehicles,planes, ships etc. of the whole world combined.

    It is also unnatural for us humans to use condoms, but we are evolutionized enought that we are smart enough to do it. So we should be evolutionized enough to care about what we are doing to the eart and limit our "natural" actions. A vegetarian diet benefits the environment and there is nothing without the world.

    A vegetarian diet also benefits your health if you do it right. And about the bible, i dont beleive in it, so i cant give you any support on that one.

  15. look at nature buddy, predators eat anything they can catch. Deer, rabbits, cows, people, whatever. Animals were totally meant to be eaten.

    Sooo, God is now wrong just because you dont agree with him? Wooooo talk about arrogance!

  16. It gets very sticky if you go into whether animals were "meant" to be eaten or not, whether you believe in creation or evolution.

    Instead of going down that road, I'd suggest you tell them about modern farming methods.  Whether God meant for us to eat animals or not, he DEFINITELY meant for us not to torture them.  And modern factory farming is just that-- torture.  When we buy meat, we're just paying someone else to do it for us.

  17. The Bible did say we that meat was meant to be eaten, but it never said it was alright to torture animals in the process.  When Jesus walked the earth and when the bible was written, people didn't eat 4 different kinds of meat at every meal and they didn't warehouse tons of animals on factory farms.

    If they were going to kill a chicken to eat it they would put it on a stump and cut it's head off with an ax.  Now they hang them upside down and scald their feathers off while they are sometimes still conscious.

    Every family had a cow and they would milk her to feed the family.  They didn't pump her full of hormones and make her carry around tons of milk.  They didn't give her antibiotics because she didn't live in filthy conditions.  They didn't milk her so much that pus and blood would come out of painfully soar udders.

    When they ate fish they caught it with a hook.  They didn't catch fish for the fun of it and they didn't use sonar so they could take practically every fish out the ocean.

    They hunted animals and killed them cleanly.  They didn't hunt animals, kill them, take their skin and leave their carcass....

    There were no chicken with their beaks seared of living short lives in battery cages and be starved so they would shocked into laying eggs when production was slow.

    The Bible told that torture was wrong.  People who use the Bible as an excuse to eat meat are misinformed.  They are supporting the suffering.

    www.meat.org

  18. Bible says that they were meant to be eaten.

    The fact that humans have canines proves that we are meant to eat meat.

    Meat provides good nutrients for us.

    Sorry mate, meat IS meant to be eaten by us. Don't try and deny it just because you're vegetarian. Ignore your parents, and do what you like - but don't lie to defend yourself. You dont need too.

  19. there are a few lines in th old testament that says one should not consume flesh. The new bible was created so that people could change and have things the way they want it to be not the way it should be. I am neither Catholic or Christian. My bf and I have actually read the old testament in old English and there are a few lines in there that say we shouldn't consume meat. So maybe you should read that version instead of the one that was created for convience sake. And yeah if animals were meant to be eaten then humans were meant to destroy the Earth as well go figure...

  20. If they believe that, then they must believe that they are MEANT to hunt. If they want to take the life of an animal that has lived a natural life and use every part that they can, that is great.

    If animals are MEANT to be eaten, they are definitely NOT MEANT to live in their own urine and f***s like over 90% of animals raised for food in the Western world are forced to live.

    http://www.factoryfarming.org

    Your job is not to convert ANYONE, it is to be a rational and likable person to those around you and only those that know you personally should even hear the word "vegetarian" come out of your mouth.

    Being veg is OUR CHOICE. If you get into arguments, you are just taking major blows against your own objective. Only those that are curious can be convinced and only without condescension or arguing.

    The only argument that humans are MEANT to be vegetarian is an argument that you are setting yourself up to lose.

  21. Wow, I suddenly remembered this:

    Humans have an appendix because WAAY back, we didnt eat animals, we ate grass and other plants, the appendix would digest the plants and kill harmful bacteria. That is the reason we no longer need out appendixes because we dont eat grass and progressed onto eating meat. So perhaps were built to eat plants and grass not meat. =)

  22. Hmmm good for you for going vegetarian.

    I really don't think there's an actual scientific reason...

    Tell them only certain animals were meant to be eaten.

    It shouldn't really matter what they think anyways--just be proud of yourself!

  23. food chain is a load of c**p.

    and i think the one emendment or w/e says thou shall not kill.

    and what do you do to eat meat you kill it.

    so i think a TON of christians are commiting sins.

    and humanes are herbavors.

    way back we could hardley get our hands on meat bc of our weapons were crappy.

    but dont even try convincing them that.

    most people are delusinal and ignore it.

    and we do not get protien and health stuff from meat.

    ok i can get more protien form a spoonfull of peanut butter then a nice well made chicken or w/e.

    and meats these days have a ton of steroids and hormones.

    they just dont admit it bc they are to pu$$y to become a veg.

  24. well there are kinda right, I mean when something dies maggots eat it. and for a predator to live it will usually eat other animals. It seems that you can't have it both ways. If life is a part of earth then so is death, either by means of age or *nature - (*predator and prey relationship). To say that all can live together in harmony without the killing of (and I always find this funny "innocent animals" as if we kill and eat them because they committed a crime or something)  animals then I think there is something fundamentally wrong with the thinking. Now I understand people who are vegans because they prefer that diet, however for them to stand and say that the rest of us are wrong for killing and eating animals is both ignorant of life on this planet and have failed to think that thru. I mean to survive thru the winter we have always primarily relied on meat, because of the obvious (not many edible plants grow in the winter.) With the global market we could eat plants year round however that is not viable if a massive agricultural shortage happened. and the animals that can live off of plants which would be indigestible in humans means that we could eat that animal to "survive" but all in all its personal preference but once you are in a survival situation (which as of now is rare) your only choice is to die or kill to live.

  25. im a vegitarian too ! :D

    i have been for 5 years now .

    i dont know whats thats like, b/c most of my family is very

    supportive . but do some research and show it to yer

    family-on how cruel and everything it is . they mite understand

    stay strong :D

  26. Well..the way human bodies are built, we were meant to be carnivours, but are able to stand a vegetarian diet. And the way of the animal kingdom is to eat other animals. I'm a vegetarian, but I don't think we were meant to not eat meat, especially since we have canines, used for tearing meat..

    In hinduism it is a sin to harm or kill an animal...

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