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Anti-Global Warming proof?

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Everyone is concerned about Global Warming. Big Bad humands putting CO2 in the atmosphere...Yea whatever.

If GW were real, why all of the sudden has it become a huge deal? Is it possible that in the last 5 number of years that we have disrupted the natural Carbon Cycle to make it build up so fast?

In my biology class we recently watched a film that was all Pro GW and the like. It showed how the Sahara desert was expanding; and how lakes around it were dring up faster then ever because of GW. If global warming were real, wouldn't the opposite happen? The cold ocean current would warm up just like the rest of the earth right? So the current that is off the coast of Africa, the cold current taht keeps weather patterns the way they are, would then be able to cause more precipitaiton would it not? With it warming up, it would cause more rain to fall...

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  1. I agree; plus, this past winter was what I call a "real winter"; snow, cold and all. If the earth was warming like they say, we wouldn't be able to have those anymore.


  2. The gLOBAL wARMING guilt that Al gore is spreading is kind of reminiscent of  the Religious guilt flung about by religious leaders of old in order to guilt the masses into submission. Anybody Remember how the cathollic church maintained control of its people by using guilt? this guilt created a great source of revenue  by telling people that they could pay for a remission of sins. Global warming taxes will be no different than this. yet you will be forced to pay whether you believe in it or not. science is the religion of the progressive world . there is no real proof that man is causing g.w. infact there is  a Real opposite position that has factual information and scientific proof that  man has no reason  to feel guilty for  the change in climate on planet earth. dont just listen to  people that want you to feel guilty for something of which there is no proof.  you are not responsible for a natural occuring cycle of the planet.  please take a look at what the opposite position is saying ... they are not asking for your money. And they are certainly not trying to guilt you out of your money with out telling you a detailed plan of how they are going to use it to change the temperature of the planet.. they know that if they try to change the planets temperature (if it were possible) they might create even more of a problem follow these links to watch some videos  that share this differing opinion.. thanks for listening.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=Io-Tb7vTamY

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ft8LfE7AI2w

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=216v5AoQcFQ

  3. The Sahara has been expanding for centuries. But the G.W. spin people leave out that fact. I agree with you. Much of the G.W. propaganda begins with the people and organizations that stand to profit from it. It's an old advertising ploy. Create a problem for people, and then sell a cure.

    World wide temperatures haven't increased for eight years now. The big picture of Earth history shows that the temps and regions change continuously any way. For a period of 300 million years the Earth was extremely tropical. To the point that ferns and palm fossils still liter Antarctica.

  4. global warming is real :( sadly it is :(

    we have to face the problem, whether it be fake or not :|

    i just cant stand living in a world where there are no more animals :(( and colorful flowers and lush, green trees :(

    the world will be hopeless and will die without trees :(

    i pity these animals because God created them so that we can take care of them, yet many people tend to destroy the natural habitat of these creatures.

    mother earth gives us food, shelter, nature, animals and yet we give her pollution in return, we waste the food she gives, we destroy natures, and we abuse and kill animals

    mother earth is sick! :((

  5. there is really no correlation between CO2 and global temperatures. the winter of 2008 was the coldest its been in over 60 years.

    al gore has no right to say that "global warming " is happening, he has no degree in science and his movie "an inconvienient truth" has clips in his movie that were taken out of the movie "the day after tomorrow". it is a total fraud. he says every person who drives a gas powered car is guilty of ruining the planet, when he has a massive house, and runs his A/C and heater on gas.

    people who believe in this hoax should be taken out in the streets and pulled apart by two horses.

    ask the democrats why oil is so expensive

  6. I believed you were going to present "proof" to dismiss GW ?

    Your presenting exactly what the pro/con do.......hypothesis, speculation and theoretical opinion.

  7. The reason why "global warming" is becoming a huge deal is because there hasn't been any warming since 1998 even though co2 levels have increased.

    If this trend continues, people will think "global warming" is a big joke like Y2K.  So laws need to be passed now while people still believe "global warming" is a problem.

  8. scientists and al gore said that when greenland melted, the ocean would rise 9 feet. greenland is 1/4 gone. therefore, the ocean should rise 2 1/2 feet. yet go down to the beach- it hasn't changed.

  9. It's really not "all of a sudden" a huge deal.  It's just that most people don't read the scientific literature, so it seems like a new concern to the average non-scientist.  But global warming has been a growing concern of scientists who study the climate since the late 1800's.

    Humans have been adding to the natural cycle of CO2, since the Industrial Revolution.

  10. I dont agree to this at all!! Global Warming is extremely real and whatever Al Gore says is the part of an Absolute TRUTH. For God's sake, there are no lies attached to it. First of all answer this: who told you that GW is caused due to CO2. It is not the ultimate reason. There are many other factors which are responsible. First is the pollution. Second is the cutting of trees. One idiot gave an answer that plants clear the CO2 but first of all get THAT plants which will clear CO2. We are destroying ourselves. It is not the gases which will kill us. Floods Storms and rains would kill us too. Global warming was a risk factor since the beginning of the industrial revolution in Europe but it wasn't a much problem at that time because Earth was able to compensate for the losses. In last five years all this has piled up and now there is no solution to this risk. Deserts are expanding. One and only reason is the cutting of trees. Population is rising, land is needed, trees are cut down, trees are responsible for amount of rains in particular are and when this trees are not there how will rains come?? I think you have misconception about currents. It is not the currents which decide climate but the reverse. Lakes are drying due to high temperatures. Earth's climate moreover was never stable and it was pre-decided that destructions are going to be followed by ultimate development because of pollution and global temperature rise, ecological imbalance etc.. As you said the conditions are already inverse. In winter, the climate is most cold even though due to high temperatures. GW does not only refer to heating but also includes every aspect of natural destruction. So you see i can prove you wrong in all ways and still if you dont agree to it, feel free to contact me: kap_asl_ali@yahoo.co.in

  11. I think the Montreal protocol set the precedent that you don't need proof of an environmental disaster to justify making laws and treaties.

    When scientists measured the ozone layer for the first time, they found it was thicker in some places than others - so to shore up their research grants, they said that it must be thinner in some places because humans had destroyed it.  As rediculous as that is, a lot of people believed it and it enabled the UN to pass the Montreal protocols.  

    Anyway with the pace of development in the world, there may not be millions of starving people for the UN to feed for much longer and the UN doesn't try to prevent wars like they once did because they seem to be controlled by Nato now and they just sanction wars instead.  They are struggling to find a purpose in a post cold war, post 9/11 world with shrinking global poverty.

  12. How does CO2 cause such a problem. Their math is just plain wrong. The plants are doing great in eliminating CO2.

    Methane is a light gas so it is very hard to measure so they just calculate what they want it to be. Methane goes so high that the sun oxidizes it.

    If the green house gas is not there how can there be GW.

  13. http://oceancurrents.rsmas.miami.edu/atl...

    the source of the canary current is an upwelling of deep water.

    deep water, at least the temperature of deep water, is not yet affected by global warming.

    thus it's not likely to change in the near future.

    unless of course, the temperature of the surface water warms sufficiently, that it becomes lighter, and the colder, more dense deep water, cannot come to the surface, in which case, the ocean food chain along the African coast will be significantly affected, reducing the food supply, and causing starvation along the coast.

    what really astounds me is the number of relatively uneducated people that think they know more about the climate, and environment, than people who have been studying it for many years.

    btw, wright, cool name.  ;-)

  14. It is not new.  I was reading about it in college 30 years ago.  It has taken this long to gather enough information, test enough hypotheses, and spread the word enough for it to get to the masses.  In that time the symptoms have become more obvious and the worst-case scenarios presented in the 70s are now the mid-case expectations.

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