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Anybody beleave that 2012 end of the world theroy?

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its not how the earth ends it logically impossable for the sun to become or to be hit by a black hole 1 its to small 2. black holes dont move

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  1. No. 2012 is just the end of the Mayan calendar. The Mayans never said the world would end then. It's just a beginning of a new time period. The Mayans broke their calendar up into time periods with the current one end in Dec. 2012.

    According to the Mayans people may reach a higher consciousness by then. It we do then we will have a golden age on earth. It we don't then some natural disasters will occur.


  2. It is rumored that the world would end in 2012.  It is a false rumor.  I assure you that the world will not end on 2012 December 21 but it will end one day.  Remember that if there is a beginning, there is an end.  

    Nostradamus’ prophecy of when the world will end is far into the future, past about 3700.  This is in agreement with what I heard and learned from the Holy Spirit—that there will only be about 144,000 around AD 2200, peace reigns for a thousand years till around AD 3200, and then Satan will be released to test the descendants of the elect for about 500 years.  After that, the end will come.

    The Mayan’s Mesoamerican Long Count calendar forms the basis for a New Age belief, first forecast by Jose Arguelles, that a cataclysm will take place on or about 2012 December 21 (Wikipedia).  Mainstream Mayan scholars consider “cataclysm” or “apocalypse” as a misinterpretation for to the Mayan scribes, it literally means uncovering or revealing.

    The Long Count has 360 days in a year called “Tun”.  A “Tun” has 18 months or “unials” and each “unial” has 20 days.  Twenty (20) Tuns is a Katun and 20 Katuns is a Baktun (144,000 days or about 400 solar years).  Thirteen (13) Baktuns is a “Great Cycle” of 1,872,000 days (5,200 Tuns or about 5,125 solar years).  The Great Cycle in the proleptic Gregorian calendar started on 3114 BC August 11 (day 0.0.0.0.0) and ends on 2012 December 21 (day 13.0.0.0.0) – winter solstice in the Northern Hemisphere.  The Great Cycle restarts the next day (day 0.0.0.0.0).  The representation of the Great Cycle of the Mayan Long Count calendar is as follows: (13 Baktuns.20 Katuns.20 Tuns.18 Uinals.20 days).

    In the book of Revelation, it tells us about a period of a thousand years of peace. Has this occurred already since the time of Jesus?  Not yet. That will still come. Those that give predictions of the world’s end, such as 2012 and numerous times during the past, are pseudo-preachers. Have they talked to God directly? If so, give proofs.

    But there is something that will certainly happen—and that is our physical death. This is what we should prepare for. It may come when least expected. We do not know the day and the hour. It will come like a thief in the night. So we just have to be prepared all the time. Search for the true God and when we find Him, follow His commandments and remain in Him until our last dying breath.

    This is all that we have to do. It is faith in the true God that we can take with us when we depart from this world. If we denied Him, He will deny us also before the Father in Heaven and send us to h**l. This is very scary – to live in h**l forever.  If we knew Him and loved Him and followed His commandments, then He may reward us to live with Him eternally in His kingdom in Heaven. This is the survival kit that we should have.

    Did you know that in his or her boredom, “Thanks for reading this” theorized in Yahoo Answers, Religion & Spirituality section, that 2012 is 20 + 12 = 32, the approximate age of Jesus when He was crucified and died?  I answered that when Jesus died, He was actually 32 solar years old, equivalent to 33 lunar years.  Details are in http://www.geocities.com/peacecrusader88...  Is this a sign that God is warning us of the impending calamity around 2012, like the end of the Mayan’s calendar cycle?  But I repeat, 2012 is not the end of the world yet.

    The Holy Spirit also told us that beings from another planet will take only the marked good people out of this world.  I asked Him if it’s a million.  He said much less than that.  Then I asked if the number is the one mentioned in Revelation and He affirmed it.  A few weeks ago this year, 2008, as I was reading Revelation, I came across Revelation 14:3 to wit (King James Version):  ÃƒÂ¢Ã‚€ÂœAnd they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.”  ÃƒÂ¢Ã‚€ÂœRedeemed from the earth” means saved from the earth.  And there were 144,000 of them.  This must be what the Holy Spirit was referring to several years ago.  His advice to all: leave their wicked way of life and change their way of thinking.  We should come back to the true God before it’s too late.  (I read in Isaiah 55:7 this message, to wit (KJV): “Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.”)  Be good then so that we may be considered to be among the 144,000 who will be saved, and later will restart and repopulate this world.  The Holy Spirit told us to tell people about this prophecy even though they accuse us as being out of our minds.  He assured us that this will happen, similar to Noah’s prophecy of the Great Flood which took a hundred years before it was fulfilled.  The vessel that Noah used to be saved was an ark.  This time, another kind of vesssel will be used to save the elect.

      

    What is also certain to happen very soon (in about 2012 or earlier) is World War III and this is a nuclear war.  This “calamitous war” (as Nostradamus called it) will start from the Philippines, at Spratly Islands in particular.  The Spratly Islands lie on the southeast part of the South China Sea mostly near the coast of the Philippines.  The Holy Spirit told us that the Philippines is the wick of a gas lamp.  Once the wick is lit, it will be on and aglow.  He told us about this prophecy about two decades ago.  He said that the troubles in the Philippines will spread to the whole world until mankind is almost annihilated and a few will remain.  Spratly Islands are being claimed wholly by China, Taiwan and Vietnam; and partly by Malaysia, Brunei and the Philippines.  The area is considered a tinderbox, a flash point.  It is very rich in oil and gas resources, estimated to be more than the reserve of Kuwait.  The high price of oil may trigger the grabbing of these islands and start the war.

    Four independent prophecies point to the certainty that this will happen.  These are Nostradamus’ prophecies to happen around this time (quatrains 6:24 and 2:62) , the 56th Chinese prophecy of Tui Bei Tu (the past 55 prophecies have already been fulfilled) found at http://www.alexchiu.com/philosophy/corp3... and Wikipedia, Revelation 9:18 of the Holy Bible, and those that the Holy Spirit revealed to us.  If you are interested in the details about these prophecies, please send me your request via email.

    After the calamitous war, we will have a new age, a spiritual awakening or enlightenment, and peace will reign for a long time.  The population would have been reduced by a third and there will be much arable land that will be available.  People will be living in planned cities and communities.  Would you like to live in a city where the land is free and you are guaranteed possession of the land for 50 years, renewable, and which you can bequeath to an heir?

    The Holy Spirit has given His prophecies and these are what will happen.  Be rest assured then that the world will not end yet.  But please, heed what He advises us to do—to change our wicked way of life and change our wrong beliefs.  Come back to the true God.

    I am just sharing with you what I heard and learned from the Holy Spirit.  The decision to believe Him or not depends upon yourself.  I am not forcing anyone to believe in what I share.  It is not my responsibility to save you or anyone, but the person’s.

    Isaiah 35:4 (KJV) states: “Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompense; he will come and save you.”

  3. Only the poorly educated.

    Black holes are not always small, and black holes DO move -- we think.  Some are random, some might have their own orbits around the galactic center.

    BUT . . . we'd already being seeing signs of the MASSIVE gravitational disturbances as the black hole approached our sun. Depending on it's speed and size, it woould hav disturbed comets and astreoids, and maybe even some planetary orbits.

  4. There are no end-of-the-world theories, only hoaxes.

    (In science, a theory has to be based on verifiable hypotheses and has to match observations.  None of the ones that I have seen so far, including this one, are even close to being called theories).

    1.  It is true that the Sun cannot become a black hole.

    2.  Black holes can move.  They will behave like any other mass, responding to gravity fields.

    If we were to find a tiny black hole with the same mass as a planet, and put it in orbit around the Sun, it would keep in orbit just the same as if it were a planet of that mass.

    However, I have heard no (believable) reason why a black hole could come to our neighborhood in 2012.

  5. There is no actual scientific theory or evidence that anything unusual is going to happen in 2012. It is a collection of myths and disproven theories being promulgated by doomsday predictors, who predict a new one every few years. The longer explanation is below:

    It is based on the end the current cycle of the Mayan long count calendar. No doomsday was predicted and the Mayan civilization died out.

    Niburu (Planet X) doesn't exist. Zecharia Sitchin is an author of books promoting the ancient astronaut theory for human origins. He attributes the creation of the ancient Sumerian culture to the Annunaki (or Nephilim) from a hypothetical planet named Nibiru in the solar system. The Doomsayers predicted that it was to hit Earth in 2003. When it didn't show up, they just moved it out to 2012 to coincide with the end of the Mayan calendar.

    Galactic Alignment - takes 36 years to precess through galactic equator, we will be 6 degrees off in 2012.

    Asteroid Apophis - the 2001 alert was for 2029, and was canceled after additional observations showed it would not hit us.

    Polar Shift - the magnetic poles are moving all the time. Polar reversal happens over thousands of years.

    Passage through a "photon belt" has been added. This is also untrue and wouldn't hurt us if it were. Photons are merely units of light.

    Solar flares happen all the time and we have more of them at some times than others. They haven't caused any serious problems in the past. The direct effects of solar flares are mainly related to communications and radio transmissions. We had a major series of solar flares in 2005. Did you notice anything? I didn't.

    I hadn't heard anything about black holes relating to 2012, but we aren't going to be near any of them.

  6. What are you talking about?

    No-one should believe in the hoax about 2012 (and no doubt the rumours will get more prevalent as Roland Emmerich makes a film about it - aarrgghhh).

    There is no reason that the earth should end just because that's the end of the Mayan calendar.

    There is no Planet X/Nibiru - we would have detected it by now.

    I hadn;t heard the black hole version before - but why should one suddenly appear and hit the sun?

  7. no i don't, there is no reason why it will be the "end of the world"

    to me it is just somebody who wants to get a good laugh out of peoples fear

  8. nah. any black hole would burn up near the sun. Anyway, doctor who wil save us!!!

  9. I do a little

  10. yes i think so but i hope you have a nice after life dude

  11. I'm sure there are people who believe in it, every silly claim has it's followers, i.e. the Moonhoax, David Icke's Reptiloids etc

    I'm not one of them...

    According to the 2012ers it will be the end of the world because

    1. Nostradamus said so

    2. The Mayan calender ends

    3. an Ouija Board said so

    4. there will be a pole shift

    5. there will be a planetary alignment

    6. there will be a galactic alignment

    7. an asteroid will hit earth

    8. Planet X/ Nibiru will appear

    9. some crystal skull nonsense

    10. we are heading into a photon belt (whatever that’s supposed to be

    11. Indian Astronomer said so

    12. The Sun will blow up

    13. some Volcano or Earthquake

    14. a  Black Hole will come along

    15. the experiments in CERN’s LHC

    and probably some other equally silly reasons.

    I would take those doomsayers more serious if they

    - had a better track record (just how many times has the world ended already?)

    - could make up ONE story about it

  12. 2012 is just the revealing of the 'antichrist' at the middle of what Jews and Christians call the 7 year Tribulation. Many pagan cultures (Sumerians, Babylonians, Cherokee, Hopi, Chinese I-Ching, Mayans, Egyptians, Celts, Satanists, etc...) celebrate this evil event called "the abomination that causes desolation". When will Yeshua Ha'Mashiach (Jesus) come? Only God Himself knows, but soon. If you believe or not, that is up to you.

    Things to look for to PROVE it to yourself soon:

    Crash of American banks and its financial underpinning: Operation Sitting Duck

    Fall of America as an economic power and other ways.

    The Big One: Revelation 18. America goes down on the list of fabled societies nobody believes in any more like Atlantis, Mu, Lemuria, Hyperborea, etc..

    Martial law. (Google some of Bush's executive orders concerning it- Nightmarish!)

    Trying to make people first accept the REAL ID card (to get you in the system) and then right after forcibly implanting people with these RFID chips:

    http://www.verichipcorp.com/

    The start of the North American Union.

    Push to attack Iran which will start WW3-the atomic war to end all wars. (If you think China, Russia, and the Muslim world would just sit back, you are a mistaken fool!)

    Final push to one world government: The New World Order.

    (The brutal final empire foreseen by Daniel and John)

    Push to one world religion where there are "manys ways to God".

    Toleration of everything but Jews and Christians.

    More world wide food shortages and famines.

    More earth quakes. More fires. Strange and severe weather.

    Temporary and unheard of "peace in the middle east".

    Rise of a miraculous and awe inspiring world leader later to turn world dictator.

    Major spiritual awakenings.

    Rise of Islamic fanaticism.

    Rise in wickedness and corruption.

    Implementation of Project Bluebeam (be ready to hear more and more 'alien talk'... watch your local skies for the show!)

    *** ALERT: THEY ARE ALREADY PRACTICING [A MUST SEE!]***

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=932Zu4e4iVM

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=plELx_wmNgU

    Christians and Messianic Jews look forward to this as it means they will soon join their Messianic Saviour in the Millennial Kingdom of the next Age and their Heavenly Father later as "Children of Light".

    If you try to equate 2012 with Y2K or some other date that cried wolf, then you will be making the worst mistake in your life.

    Research all these things FOR YOURSELF!

  13. On this forum, there isn't anyone who really believes that the world will end in 2012.

    Now black holes is one i hadn't heard.

    The Sun is small compared to interstellar distances.  So getting hit by a black hole, or another star, is unlikely.  The Sun does not have enough mass to become a black hole.

    But black holes can move.  In fact, very large stars that become black holes tend to migrate to the center of the galaxy - and eventually merge with the big black hole there.

    Now, the people promoting this "black hole" idea may think they're clever.  Black holes are black, so astronomers wouldn't see one, right?

    Not quite.  First, black holes tend to have high gravity.  If there were a black hole within ten light years, it would show up in sky surveys.  There would be visible distortions of objects around it.  Second, black holes interact strongly with their environment.  So, the interstellar medium would be attracted, and that would be enough for the black hole to develop an accretion disk and jet.  That would make it light up like a Christmas tree.

    These phenomenon would be of interest to astronomers, and would be studied at high priority.  It takes whole teams to do this kind of work, and so it couldn't possibly be kept a secret.

    Sorry.  No black hole.

    In 2013, the year 2012 will go down in history as the year the world didn't end.  It will have lots of company, though, as many, many predictions of the world's end have come and gone, and we're still here.

    And yet, the world will eventually end.  You heard this very accurate prediction here first.

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