Are 'wahabis' just something shia like to call people

Question

or is it actually a sect from ibn Abd-al Wahhab ?

cuz some people here seem to think its just something shia made up ???

Answer 1

Here is a ready reference to your question

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahabis

Answer 2

Shias here wants to proof that wahabi r those who were enemy of ahl bayt,and they r the followers of Mohammad bin Abdul wahhab.

My point is ,As Abu Bakr and Umar (ra) both were enemies of ahl bayt,Accordind to Shias) So muslims r the follower of abu bakr and omar (RA),and they should be called Abu bakri and Omri instead of wahabbi .Bcoz their roots r In Abu Bakr And Omar (RA) not in Abdul wahhab.

Answer 3

Wahhabi is a Derogatory word used by Shias,Ahmedis,Sufis,Barailwis,etc against Salafi\Ahle Hadith.

Adherents usually reject this term because it is considered derogatory and because they believe that Muhammad ibn Abd-al-Wahhab did not establish a new school of thought nor self-describe themselves as such. Typically, adherents used terms like "Muwahidoon," "Ahle Hadith," or "Ahl at-Tawheed."

Salafis view the first three generations of Muslims, who are Prophet Muhammad's (PBUH) companions, and the two succeeding generations after them, the Tabi‘in and the Taba‘ at-Tabi‘in, as examples of how Islam should be practiced. This principle is derived from the following hadith :

“ The people of my generation are the best, then those who follow them, and then those who follow the latter (i.e. the first three generations of Muslims)."

Bukhari 3:48:819 and 820 and Muslim 31:6150 and 6151 .

The principal tenet of Salafism is that Islam was perfect and complete during the days of Muhammad and his companions, but that undesirable innovations have been added over the later centuries due to materialist and cultural influences. Salafism seeks to revive a practice of Islam that more closely resembles the religion during the time of Muhammad.

    

Answer 4

Again, totally agree with Dawn.  

Answer 5

enemies of Islam are trying their best to divide Muslims.

Answer 6

The Shias did not make it up.;-) For accurate information read a book on Wahhabism.

Answer 7

well it is a sect formed by the wahab dude. its got its own  group of scholars distinct form others.

its not just shias which recognize them a distinct sect. many sunni sects like the brelhvi hanafis recognize them as a distinct sect too. they have their own article on wikipedia for petes sake. it like the most informative site on the net. the fact that many of them deny what they are just shows you what a confused and misleading sect it is which engages in such double speak and double think

EDIT:

some dude is pooh poohing wikipedia.

IS NOTHING SACRED ANYMORE!?

Answer 8

WoW there are much of people still taking their Knowledge from Wikipedia !!

that explain the ignorance rates in the world !!

d**n it i have nbo time to create an account there and change all the page and keep changing it dially if some one changed it back !

but i think later i will change it to the real thing

LoL Osma bin laden is Wahabi !!

EDIT: at the Qadiyani (Sunflower)  all of them are lies  they don't even prove any of their claims lol and i have a question for you what is wahabi beliefs tell me what Muhammad abdul wahab called for

and i have a challenge for you from Quran and Sunnah

will you debate me ?

lets open a Question between me and you !

lol you sources said Bin Laden is wahabi

your sources talked about a new thing as wahabi but they didn't quote anything from wahabbi beliefs all what they think and most of them written by non Muslims

lol!!

while Islamic(or what you called a wahabi sites)

is saying bin laden is terrorist

take a look here

http://www.answering-extremism.com/ae/de...

http://www.athaar.org

http://www.islaam.ca

http://www.authentictranslations.com/

http://www.fatwaislam.com/fis/

http://www.troid.org/

http://www.salaf.com

http://www.albaseerah.org/

http://www.seekknowledge.org

so this is the first lie of you and i proved that you wrong take all your sources which some of them just copied the wikipedia and paste

and come and debate me !

first Question what did Muhammad abdul wahab called for did he say he is prophet like your fake prophet in Qadiynaism?

did he say follow me ? and create new thinng?

or did he called for Tawhid and he saied don't worship any one but Allah !

he said Pray only for Allah !

he said Ya ALi and Ya bla bla is all shirk

he said people must say only ya allah !

he said grave worshipin is shirk and only pray on masajid !

he call muslims to come back to Quran and Sunnah  not his new religion !

like what you lied

now i want you to bring me something from what he says is contracting Quran and Sunnah !!

I'm waiting for you !

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EDIT: well well well the difference between me and you that i can't lie but you can ..!

i won't go and copy paste your answers about Qadiyanis which shows that you are one of them ..!

and i don't care about whop are you though ...

i don't call no one a kafir ..

but  the scholars the Islamic ones showed us who is Muslims and who is not

note if i said you are not Muslim it doesn't mean you are Kafir you may be Mushrik or ahlul bidah or others ...

now you said ahamdis Muslims !!

well i don't like to waste my time on Ignorance please

read the shahada and the basics of Islam which says

there is Only one god (Allah) and the prophet Muhammad his last Messenger !

Qadiyanis believe ion other Prophet after the prophet !

what does that make them ???

Islam one religion you can't modify Islam or change it and you say I'm Muslim .. Islam has one teaching not many which against each other !

so there are many deviant sectys like shias ahmadis sufis khwarjis etc ...

and they are a deviant sects not ISLAM!!

Islam is Quran + Sunnah(following the prophet)..

nothing more nothing less

now for your sites i check them in hurry lol

one of them just copied the Wikipedia one

and one of them is written by an Atheist.

other by sufis the same link which the shias posted it and said a sunni site

lol when you enter the site you say

Ya Muhammad on the top .. which is PURE SHIRK !...

we discussed that before and if you want we can do it again...

so non of your sites have a d**n evidence for their claims

and i chellange you and them

and my sources is Quran and Sunnah

the same sources of Sheikh abdul wahab

they didn't find anything from what he wrote saying something new or changing or saying follow me !

so they invented a word and called every one with it now they say wahabi on bin laden which is big lie and you check the sites i gave you bin laden is khwarjis and his biggest enemy is Salafis(who called wahabis)

so now i gave you my challenge and i'm waiting for you and lets debate things from Quran and Sunnah and lets see who invent things and who follow them ...

by the way Muslims (who follow the salafu al salih)

the pure ones are hated by all sects because they exposed them all

check that for few

http://almuttaqoon.com/index.php?showfor...

so simple if you follow Quran and Sunnah you will be against SHIRK+ BIDA'AH + KUFER...

and they are the peaceful ones you can't see them killing anyone but the opposite that the deviant sects issued fataws to kill them like Bin laden when he issued fatwa to kill them and called them al saud Scholars and kafirs

like the shia Shirazi when issued fatwa on all sunnis

and Khomeini did the same when he said Muslims sunni money and blood is halal ...

Muslims salafis(wahabis) are against extreminism and terrorisim

i provide you many sites you can check them

so funny though and we have a proof in here all of shias bring the wikipedia link and we all knopw that in wikipedia there was a Photo for the prophet Muhammad and maybe still there ... so what does that mean ???

and for you flower  i'm on my word  i gave you a challenge

between us based on Quran and Sunnah ...

and tell me what is the wahabi beliefs and what is the difference between them and Islam!!

waiting...

Answer 9

The Sunnis have debunked Wahabis again and again.....

The British agent Abdul Wahab was created out for fighting the Sunni Turks.....The Sunnis have debunked Wahabis again and again.... Some sunnis here dont know and think that only shias name them wahabis...

The wahabis are not followers of Wahab, they are Kharijis and they are Deobandis......Liars and decievers, they will be (Insha Allah)punished by God for all the bad reputation they gave us (the Muslim Ummah)...

Answer 10

"cuz some people here seem to think its just something shia made up"

Your right ;)

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Al-Wahhaab is one of the Attributes of Allaah.

When people say so-and-so is Wahhaabi, they intend the following:

"A follower of Muhammad ibn Abdul-Wahhaab"

According to the 'Aqeedah of Islaam, a person who is Wahhaabi should be a follower of whom? al-Wahhaab.

Regardless, look at the insincerity of these people. If they were truthful they would say "Muhammadis" as the Shaykh they refer to is "Shaykh MUHAMMAD bin (son of) Abdul-Wahhaab" not Shaykh 'Abdul-Wahhaab, his father.

The name was first used by the British in India years after the death of Shaykh Muhammad bin Abdul-Wahhaab. Many of the indian scholars traveled to Yemen and Saudi Arabia, and they learned from the scholars and began preaching Islaam again in India. This troubled the British and they spread the term "Wahhabi". The ignorant Muslims took this and used against anyone who called against Shirk and Bid'ah.

The Rawaafidh Shee'ah have hatred towards the Shaykh because he leveled their shrines and graves where they used to worship the dead, such as in Karbala.

From Abul-Hayyaaj al-Asadee who said: "‘Alee Ibn Abee Taalib said to me: 'Shall I not send you for what the Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) sent me? That you deface all statues and pictures and that you level all elevated graves.'" Related by Muslim (3/61), Aboo Daawood (3/70), an-Nisaa‘ee (1/285) and others.

Excerpt from The "Wahhabi" Myth:

The word "Wahabism" is in fact nothing but a meaningless appellation which is used by people in two cases: The term "Wahabism" is often used to describe those who closely stick to the verses of the Qur'an and the narrations of the Prophet Muhammad (may Allah raise his rank and grant him peace) in all religious affairs. Consequently, instead of directly attacking Islam for those things that do not appeal to their desires, they call anyone who follows these texts "Wahabis."

www.thewahhabimyth.com

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LOL perfect example of eviwahha oh and I am not a Wahhabi although alot of your lot have called me it!

Answer 11

Wahabi's will say Shia made it up to create fitnah!

Wahabi's do excist and are not a myth or made up.

Just to please 'Muslim not Shia':

http://www.shaikhsiddiqui.com/wahabi.htm...

http://www.swans.com/library/art10/mgc12...

http://biphome.spray.se/hyla/wahabia/03....

http://www.ummah.net/Al_adaab/wahhabi_kh...

The list can go on and on and on.........

@ Muslim not Shia: Brother, you are accusing ME of the thing you and many others here did and do. Big difference between us, is i never called anybody a kafir and i never will.

Ahmadiyya are my brothers and sisters (funny..... you should know by now i am not one of them, i just am amazed that a lot of you here forgot what the Quran teaches us: 'There is NO compulsion in religion!') so i will defend their right to believe what they want to believe with a passion, i will defend their right to call themselves Muslims, they do follow the 5 pillars of Islam just as all other Muslims do.

When ever there is a question about Ahmadiyya you are there, posting a bunch of lies about them from hate sites.

I do not think you actually ever went to alislam.org and tried to read there with an open mind.

When brother 1qfactor asks openly for any of you 'Ahmadi haters' to refute him using Quran and Sunnah, no one takes the challenge, it is just the same copy paste from hate sites.

I just posted a bunch of links to show you there is more than just Wiki when it comes to Wahabism.

I know there are a lot of pro Wahabi sites too..... i even read some of them..... with an open mind!

Anyways, as long as you think it is ok to judge another Muslim and think it's ok to call him a kafir, as long as you think it is ok to hate some one just because his beliefs are not yours, i respectfully will not take up your kind invitation to debate you.

May Allah guide us all.

Edit 2:

Brother Muslim not Shia, first of all,  please accept my sincere apologies for accusing you of using the word kafir. According to you you never use that word, so I am terribly sorry I wronged you. You just call them ‘deviant sects’ like Shia etc… and non Muslims, so point taken!

Now, as to your answer to me. Your answer shows how confused you are. It shows that you think you can play Allah,  Astaghfirullah, ; you claim to know what is in the heart of others. You seem to know more than i do when it comes to my beliefs. That's just amazing!! Trust me if i would be an Ahmadi, i would proudly tell any one so, but since i am not, i can't. Simple as that.

You state that: "but the scholars the Islamic ones showed us who is Muslims and who is not."

2 interesting things about this sentence:

1. You obviously in your wisdom can decide who is a 'real' Islamic scholar and who is not. So how do you pick and chose? The ones that you agree with are Islamic; the ones you disagree with are not?

2. You place your scholars over Allah Almighty!!!! Only HE knows who is a Muslim and who is not. Remember the words of our beloved prophet: 'If you call some one a Kafir and he is not, you will be considered the Kafir by Allah. (oh sorry non muslim)

I see you dare to risk your soul based on what scholars decide. I am not that brave. I will not risk it and will consider those who call them selves Muslim as Muslim.

What trully shocked me of a ‘purist’ Muslim like you claim you are, is the fact that you changed the Kalima!!!! As far as I know the kalima states: “La illaha ill Allah, Muhammadur Rasul Allah”

which means: There is No God but Allah and Mohammad is the messenger of Allah.  Guess what? The word LAST is not there!!!!  

You ADDED it to fit you own views. Now, hmmmmm…… how did you say it yourself?  ÃƒÂ¢Ã‚€ÂœIslam one religion you can't modify Islam or change it” well bro YOU JUST CHANGED ONE OF THE 5 PILLARS OF ISLAM THE KALIMA!!!

Also, you have a very interesting notion of Shrik: 'Ya Muhammad on the top .which is PURE SHIRK !... '

I thought Shirk was worshipping others besides God....... to state that Mohammad (PBUH) is the most important prophet, hmmmmmmmm...... if that is shirk, i guess all sects are committing shirk, cause as far as i know he's the most important prophet in every ones beliefs! Allah Almighty is the one and only who gets worshipped, also by Ahmadiyya. Not Mohammad (PBUH) or any other prophet. I cannot remember btw i ever discussed that topic with you.

You gave me a link to a website I’ve been to more than once, because brother Abul Hareeth posts it always when there are questions about Wahabi…. It’s a very nice forum indeed, were likeminded spirits post their views. And that’s all it is….. a forum where members post their views. Quite interesting and entertaining to read, I must admit though!

Anyways, I’m spending my lunch hour on answering some one who believes his scholars hold all the wisdom. Who believes his scholars to be right and who believes that all other sects are deviant…… so basically some one who takes the word of mere humans over the word of Allah Almighty. Wasn't there a word for that?

Shows me more than anything that my decision not to take your challenge is the right one indeed.

Since you ‘don't like to waste your time on Ignorance’ and you obviously think I am, I consider this discussion closed. I won't answer to any of the accusations you make towards me and my person anymore. I do forgive you the lies and slander against my person.  May Allah forgive you too.

Even though I do not agree with you and your beliefs, I do respect them. I wish you could return the same favor to others who think differently, be it Shia, Sufi, Ahmadi or any other sects!

Let me end this with a quote of the noble Quran: ‘Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion’ (109:06).

May Allah guide us all.

Answer 12

It's a sect from ibn Adb al Wahhab, albeit quite a strict one. Most Muslims are actually sunni, and follow the Qur'an and Sunnah. However, most Wahabi's follow the strict ruling of Ibn Abd Al Wahab in regards to covering, working educating etc. They usually make their wives wear full burkha, even though the Prophet didn't say that. My mom's uncle is a Wahabi, and his six year old daughter wears burkha.

Over the top, considering she's not even at puberty yet

Answer 13

So far no one is able to bring points of believe of the "Wahhaabiyyah" which differ from Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaa'ah.

Some people here posted links to Soofee sites which attack Shaykh Muhammad bin 'Abdul-Wahhaab rahimahullaah but the problem is that they bring lies even down to his birth date and birth place! Some say that he went to Syria but he never made it to Syria from Basrah because he was walking and didn't have supplies. Some say he rebelled against the Ottoman Empire but the Ottomans had no control over Najd, even their grip on Hijaaz was weakened by the Shareef.

The problem with those who use the term... "Wahhaabi" is that their true intent is shown by the falseness of the term itself.

Wahhaabi would at the most be an ascription to 'Abdul-Wahhaab, the father of Shaykh Muhammad and this is known in the language of Arabic.

The term wahhaabi was not even known during the lifetime of the Shaykh. When Ibraaheem Pasha faced the attacks from the Egyptians and the Shareef, he borrowed the word from the British who warred against the Indians who stood up against them in India. Thereby the term "Wahhaabi" spread from the British and then to the Ottoman Soofees at the time of Ibraaheem Pasha. And this occurred roughly in the year 1225H and Shaykh Muhammad died in 1206H.

Here are some good articles on the "wahhaabiyyah":

http://almuttaqoon.com/index.php?showfor...

Answer 14

If you want to learn about wahabi, go to sunni sources >>>>> here is a good site

http://www.ummah.net/Al_adaab/salafi2.ht...

Answer 15

Wahhabism is not s**+'a; it is a radical group within the Sunni sect that had its origin in Saudi Arabia last century.  al-Qaeda is a Wahhabist group.

Answer 16

Wahhabism (Arabic: Al-Wahhābīyya الوهابية) or Wahabism is a conservative reformist call of Sunni Islam attributed to Muhammad ibn Abd-al-Wahhab, an 18th century scholar from what is today known as Saudi Arabia, who advocated a return to the practices of the first three generations of Islamic history.

Wahhabism is the dominant form of Islam in Saudi Arabia and Qatar,[1]. It is often referred to as a "sect"[1] or "branch"[2] of Islam, though both its supporters and its opponents[3] reject such designations.

The primary doctrine of Wahhabism is Tawhid, or the uniqueness and unity of God.[4] Ibn Abdul Wahhab was influenced by the writings of Ibn Taymiyya and questioned medieval interpretations of Islam, claiming to rely on the Quran and the Hadith.[4] He preached against a "perceived moral decline and political weakness" in the Arabian peninsula and condemned idolatry, the popular cult of saints, and shrine and tomb visitation.[4]

The term "Wahhabi" (Wahhābīya) was first used by opponents of ibn Abdul Wahhab[citation needed]. It is considered derogatory by the people it is used to describe, who prefer to be called "unitarians" (Muwahiddun).[5][6]

The terms "Wahhabism" and "Salafism" are often used interchangeably, but Wahhabism has also been called "a particular orientation within Salafism,"[7] an orientation some consider ultra-conservative.[8][9]