Are Central Asian Proto-Turks fathers of white race(aryans)?

Question

Dr.Spencer Wells who wrote a book titled "journey of man" claims he has evidence based on the Y-Chromosome tests, the first group followed the coast line of southern Asia all the way to Australia 50000 years ago after Africa. Another group about 40000 years ago walked again but took an inland route and first settled in Kazakhstan. This group then spread to west thru Russia, some to China and some to Siberia and Alaska, North&South America and some to Pakistan/India. He states that he identified the M9 "central asian" marker which first occurred among people of Central Asian(Turkestan) steppes 40000 years ago. He claims that a man named Niyazov( a Kazak Turk) has the M9 but no subsequent markers, therefore he must have descended in an unbroken line from the people who originally occupied Central Asia 40000 years ago. Well states that Niyazov's gene was the father to most Europeans, most Asians and most Indians.

Answer 1

I wouldn't state this as a white race concept or a stupid aryan theory which was created by Iranians and Hitler.

I would say Proto-Turks(Tur people) were the origins of Euroasian Clan that most of the people on the northern hemisphere was descended from. Most of the Europeans, Asians and Indians are included in this group. Race concept has been destroyed after DNA researches.

Answer 2

A couple of days ago I posted an answer to antoher race related question, saying something to this effect: "Any good RECENT physical/biological anthropology book will point out that race does not exist as a physical category. For anyone claiming that anthropologists have studied this and come up with certain categories I think you might want to drop the AAA's (Anthropologists, not the car club) statement on race which (I'm paraphrasing so go look it up) which says that race really only exists as a cultural construct and not much else. You can find it on their website.

This is a fascinating discussion though with evidence going both ways however and you will need to find some references to back whatever argument up you choose but please don't use 50+ year old data stemming from skull and mustard seed tests (that was more a inside reference to my biological anthro peeps). Consider this, genetically there is greater diversity across the same "race" than there usually is between "races." Races are "gradient" and their definition varies greatly based on classifications. Look up the racial classifications used in Brazil for instance. (Their are several articles on this but I don't remember publishing details). On the other hand how do we explain the FDA recently approving a drug for treatment of disease in the African American community stating that tests showed it was not significantly effective in other groups in the clinical trial?

Finally, I think race as a cultural construct has played a much bigger role in cultures/society then any biological difference, real or imagined. You guys are free to have your discussion on race (h**l, some anthropologists are arguing for the concept of race) but lets at least use legitimate recent theories. The stuff on this page so far sounds like a anthropology textbook from the turn of 19th century. No one uses most of these terms except to refer to extinct paradigms. "

Having reiterated that for your benefit, I will assume for a moment you may have already known this information and were simply trying to set your answers within the parameters or vocabulary of the average laymen. If that is the case, I ask you a question: how would this information be useful at all to humanity in general? What does it really say? What makes these groups "Aryan" and what would constitute that race now? Can you actually demonstrate a group that has managed to keep their genetic material so separate that you would feel comfortable calling them a "race" even in light of aforementioned genetic diversity across groups? Just curious. If so, why is this distinction important in anthropological terms?

Answer 3

There is no such thing as a 'white' race.  Do you mean 'caucasian'?  Do you realize that the Indians from India are also classified as 'caucasian' yet have a darker shade of skin than the northern European caucasian?

Color coding humans is racist.