Are any of the anti-global warming propergandists posting here NOT American?

Question

Its getting really annoying here with all the people posting here incorrect facts that supposably "disprove global warming" when those facts have been disproved and are blatantly wrong.

yeash

oh and while i'm at it could you reference some one other than al gore? he didn't invent global warming!

http://environment.newscientist.com/channel/earth/dn11462

Answer 1

I'm really feeling sorry for you!

It looks like you have been taken in by the 'hype' and 'BS' also.

I did look at your link.

If you were to bother to look in greater detail however, you might notice a few interesting points.

1) The adverts!(They are making a fortune out of people like you)

2) The responses of the people that disagree.

3) They are promoting the new advancements made in computer models as though computers now have 'mental telepathy' and can predict the future (What people tend to forget is that a computer only outputs what it is programmed to do. If you put garbage in you get garbage out!)

As far as answering your question is concerned, according to my passport, I am an American. Although I have not lived in the States for over 20 years. I now reside in Wales, and would like to consider myself more British, especially since the George W. Bush regime!

I will say in closing that in my mind there has only been one thing that GWB has done right, and that was not signing up to the Kyoto treaty!

This only proves to me that no matter how stupid you are, you can't be wrong 100% of the time!

If you like to worry about things, this maniac should be at the top of your list!

CO2 is NOT a 'greenhouse gas'.

Even at concentrations at over 10 million times the current levels.(By which time we would have all suffocated anyway)

CO2 is not an enemy but a life source! (if it were not  available, vegetation would not be able to exist. Hence you and I would not be having this communication now!

The levels of CO2 are so minute that it amazes me that plants are actually able to exist!

Do you think that you could survive with only .003% concentration of oxygen?(I don't think so!)

Mankind's contribution to CO2 emission is so minute, compared  to what nature produces, that it could actually be discarded as a contributory factor even if CO2 were a 'Greenhouse  gas'.

It is only arrogance and ignorance that makes people believe that mankind is so powerful as to be able to affect natural events!

You might as well enjoy the fact that we are currently living during a period of warmer climatic conditions while it lasts!

It won't last.

Also, I would suggest that in future, questions that you might ask, take a moment or two to check your spelling.

propergandists?

I don't think you are stupid,  just mis-guided.

I don't expect that anybody who looks at this is going to give a 'thumbs up'. That was not the point! I just want people to stop being sheep, and start being shepherds!

Take Care!

Answer 2

I'm just as annoyed with the global warming alarmist propaganda.  Is it mostly from Europe?

Answer 3

I'm Welsh so I dispute everything. I don't care a dime for politics,religion, or capitalism. But I do like to put things in perspective. You simply believe what you want to believe, no great mysteries to contend with. The facts have yet to be proved from either side...Enjoy the day.

Answer 4

The thing that annoys me is if these guys want to debate the scientists, why don't they go debate them?  Instead they inflict their pathetically ignorant misconceptions on people concerned about Global Warming in any forum the internet provides.  It seems terribly cowardly.

Answer 5

Go ahead and propagate GW until it puts u in the poor house. Can u not see how much the oil Co. are making.

Answer 6

Lol, great question. I dont think they have up-the-corporate-bung-hole conservative talk radio outside of America so I suspect there aren't any here.

Answer 7

Not that it should matter.....but I happen to be an American.  This board should welcome any and all discussion regarding global cooling...... or...... global warming (both of which have occured naturally over the course of many thousands of years).

And now..... Do you believe for one minute that IF 'Man-did-it' Global Warming was actually true.....that 15,000 so-called climate experts and liberal media.... would have loaded their butts on pollution-spewing jet planes to attend a climate conference at luxury resorts in Bali????  A conference where they discussed how WE...... obviously NOT THEY.... should be more responsible in our use of energy??!!

If those goobers were too stupid to figure out that video-conferencing would have been MUCH cleaner than spewing thousands of tons of pollutants via their jet plane trip...... then they are too stupid to advise me or anyone else regarding any sort of climate condition!!!

The actual truth is probably more like...... they have to go along with the warming hype in order to keep their jobs!!

p.s.  Video-conferencing is commonly used in business and will accommodate thousands of participants.

Answer 8

I don't think there is even a good corrolation between whether people come from the USA and whether or not they believe in AGW.

I'm Australian since you asked and it was concerned parents in the UK who took the socalistic UK government to court to try to stop them from showing "An Inconvenient Truth" to school children.

If you don't like hearing from people who don't share your beliefs, you are on the wrong forum.

Answer 9

This is funny how you Europeans love to diss America even though we ended both of YOUR world wars.....

Yeah.... And then we rebuilt you and Japan too! How fun....

And saved you from being conquered by the Soviets....

Even though you people are obviously becoming communist now anyway.....

But here you go:

The true science says that it is the Sun that is causing most of the recent warming that we have been hearing about.

Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is only accountable for less than 5% of greenhouse gases and we only make about 5% of that. (About 90-95% of Greenhouse Gases is Water Vapor)

The reason for increased CO2 is because as the oceans become heated, they cannot hold as much as they could if they were cooler, so the oceans release the excess into the atmosphere. From what I hear, the oceans can hold many times more energy and heat then the air. This meaning that the atmosphere should have very little effect on the oceans and that the sun or perhaps the Earth itself is heating up the surface since those are two of the only things that could heat our vast oceans.

Also, the Earth hasn’t warmed in nearly a decade but has actually fallen and it has fallen greatly within the past 2 years. Many scientists believe we are about to go through another little ice age.

http://www.dailytech.com/Solar+Activity+...

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20060825/531436...

Many scientists are skeptical about Anthropogenic Global Warming.

These are some resources:

http://sepp.org/policy%20declarations/he...

http://www.globalwarmingheartland.org/Ar...



Al Gore had a chart in his movie "An Inconvenient Truth" that showed the similarities of Carbon Dioxide and temperature. The thing that he doesn't tell you is that there is a gap in which the temperature rises before the CO2 which should be the exact opposite if his theory is correct. Watch “The Great Global Warming Swindle”

Polar bears are NOT being endangered but actually the exact opposite.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/north/story/200...

That is my point of view on the issue and I strongly encourage you to watch "The Great Global Warming Swindle" (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=... all the way through even if you don't want to. It is a great source of information and if you want to know the truth, you need to see both sides of the story.

Another great resource is http://z4.invisionfree.com/Popular_Techn...

Answer 10

Do you think Americans are the only people entitled to an opinion?   And why should the rest of the world take notice of you hiding bad pollution and interference behind GW?

Answer 11

At least the global warming sheep are consistent.

They claim all their global warming are proven.. without ever providing any proof.

They claim all the evidence counter to their pet theories have been disproven.. again without ever providing any proof.

Answer 12

Plenty Mate!  "Incorrect facts" Hmmm. Since when was a fact incorrect?

The US does not have a monopoly on brains, freedom of speech, panic merchants or politically inspired hype much as you might like to think so.

The British High Court is amongst your so called "propergandists" (is that an American spell checker you are using I wonder?)  as are plenty of others who actually are real scientists (ie physicists and mathematicians) who work with the known properties of the gases in the atmosphere and with real quantifiable data  - and who by the way have not been taken in by Michael Manns infamous J curve as promoted by Mr Al Gore (and now indisputably shown to be incorrect).

Have a look at

http://www.middlebury.net/op-ed/global-w...

Answer 13

Actually, Al added to global warming by running for president, flying around generating all that CO2, etc. Plus, the human body gives off about 480 BTU/hr, and he is above average.

No doubt some who post here are from outside the US, but so what?

And it's "propagandist".

The earth is definitely warming in recent years, but we are also still gathering information about the natural cycles of heating and cooling. There were NO people around during the various ice ages, for sure not when the whole earth became a ball of ice (once or twice at least).

Nor were we here when the whole earth was very much warmer, with dinosaurs living at the poles.

It makes sense to reduce pollution of the air and water, stop hunting fish to extinction, reduce the load on the planet of 8 billion people, and otherwise contribute to the continuation of the human race,  but it is not going to happen.

If I can not feed my kids without burning down a few acres of rain forest, it is going to burn!  We have a conflict between immediate individual needs and long term survival, and until we change that we are doomed as a species.

But cheer up, we'll all be dead by then.

Answer 14

Your term Propagandist is great. By this i think you mean Non Believer.

I remember when people could disagree and respect the other person and their opinion.

I understand the People cased global warming argument. and the Sun activity is causing global warming argument. While the atmosphere contains more CO2 now than any time in the human history.  It was Much Much higher before man was around.

OK lets say that GW is man made . Do you seriously think cutting back in the US without Brazil, India and China will make a dent.

So please show me a concrete link that man caused global warming and I will agree with you.  Right now the global warming crowd denounces and calls for dismissal of those that dare to disagree.

So give me something more than a Graph of CO2 compared against a time-line since humans have been on the planet.  Prove it is not the sun, Prove it is not a cycle and prove that the US and Europe can solve it alone and you have sold me.

I am a world traveler and a American Environmentalist

Why do the ecocelebreties fly private jets.  Why are they building mansions on the shores they tell us are raising.  If they beleved what they say wouldn't they fly commercial airline. They could buy the entire Frist Class section and realy cut back. And now it turns out some of the carbon offsets were used for trees already going to be planted.

Come on it doesn't pass the smell test.

Answer 15

There are always people that will pick a fight just to get the attention.

Ignore them and they'll go away.

Answer 16

Interesting question. I do think there may be a few, but not many. At least not from countries with high education levels.  Though I don't find this strange considering their current government's stance on global warming, it's unfortunate because it makes the distance between America and the rest of the world grow bigger in a situation when the whole world needs to come together to find the best solutions. Although there are states doing lots of good things, I also believe it's unfortunate for the American people and their future economic development not to have started more initiatives to deal with this problem already.

Edit:  

For those that thinks that China and India doesn't do anything I would say that is a misunderstanding. They have too much to lose from not doing anything, but they are still way behind the U.S. and most other "rich" countries in emissions per capita.

Answer 17

What , turning away from the Global Warming god ,Al Gore

Answer 18

Good question.  You can be pretty sure that the vast majority of global warming deniers are Americans, because the USA is the country which has politicized the issue.  Many Americans are unfortunately completely unaware of the science behind global warming and get their information from right-wing blowhard flunkies like Rush Limbaugh.

Nevertheless, even in the USA the global warming deniers are in the vast majority.