Are hydrogen fuel kits real or not?

Question

I see there are a lot of kits that convert water to hydrogen and even claim to power cars with it. Are they real? If so, why aren't they in stores? I would think inventions like these will sell like bread.

Answer 1

They are easy to make, its just electrolysis of distilled water, hydrogen and oxygen are sperated by energy and you end up with hydrogen gas, if you have enough hydrogen gas, it can be used to power your car completely They dont sell them in stores because many people dont believe in it, because "it takes more energy than you will get energy out of it", well that logic is ALL wrong. They can greatly improve fuel efficinecy, or with the right application and system, it is possible to make a car 100% powered by hydrogen gas. So to sum it all up, yes they work, some work better than others.

"The real problem scientifically is that it takes the exact same amount of energy to split hydrogen from water as what you get when you burn it. An internal combustion engine only converts 1/3 of the energy burned into motion"

In what application, what type of delivery system. Hydrogen gas is 10 times more combustible than gasoline, meaning you get more power from it, if you have 1 unit of hydrogen gas, and 1 unit of 100 octane gasoline, then hydrogen gas is more conbustible and is the better fuel to use. It takes energy to deliver gasoline to the engine for motion, just like it does hydrogen gas. If i delivered hho gas, contained in a gas cynlinder under high psi and replace fuel injectors with  modified gas injectors then the hho gas would inject and cause more POWER,  then the motion would be much more than 1/3.  They dont sell because of people that dont research things thouroughly before trying to give their expert opinion on something, which isnt really expert at all, now is it.

Of course its more complicated than that, but not so much that people should be afraid to try it. Very simple concept, very little money in water as gas...

Answer 2

The real problem scientifically is that it takes the exact same amount of energy to split hydrogen from water as what you get when you burn it. An internal combustion engine only converts 1/3  of the energy burned into motion. The rest escapes as heat. So it would require 3 times as much energy to make the hydrogen as you get back from it. Where does that energy come from, and does it cost less than 1/3 the price of gasoline.  Simply no.

There is no free lunch. The law of conservation of energy is absolute.

You would need a generator burning 3 times as much energy as your car to create the hydrogen.  More if you had to say transmit electricity over a power line because of the line loss.

Answer 3

let me start off by saying Hydrogen is a great option for the concept of free energy.     I built my first hydrogen cell about 5 years ago. Have converted over 50 vehicles in the last 10 years (gydrogen and EV) and now currently run 2 trucks (and another EV), my home hot water heater, home stove and home generator on hydrogen for free with caught rain water and the help of a $10 solar panel.  I offer a step by step DIY guide to walk anyone interested threw the process. You can find it at www agua-luna com or you can email me.

There are basically 3 safe ways to make and use it... chemically, electrically and molecularly, the first 2 being easier so I'll only discuss them here. The fallowing steps were taking directly out of a DIY guide I offer to those who would like to run their vehicles or home on hydrogen safely. The entire guide is available at www agua-luna com

    On demand h2 generators are a bit different from the Hollywood versions like seen Chain Reaction with Keanu Reeves, that tend to explode violently every time a film is being made. However when used in an on-demand system there is no storage of hydrogen and oxygen in its gas form, only liquid (water) and is only transformed into gas “on-demand” in small cylinder size amounts. It’s actually safer then gasoline as it doesn’t evaporate, creating explosive fumes in the tank like gas. the following were actually taken out of my $5 guide available at www agua-luna com

    Chemically

    1. You’ll need a 6inch x 1ft schedule 40 pvc pipe. With pvc cement glue a cap on the bottom and use a s***w on cap for the top. Drill a small hole (1/4inch or so) in the side close to the top, s******g in a small copper shut off valve. Place a few feet of stranded (food grade is good) flex hose to the valve and into the air intake of your engine (carburetor or fuel injections).

    2. Now crunch up a couple aluminum cans (beer cans, soda cans etc) and drop them into the pvc pipe, along with a couple cups of lye (Red Devil drain opener has lye in it, some Clorox and Drano’s do to).

    3. Then simply add water, s***w on the top and wait a few minutes.

    What happens in simplicity is that aluminum and lye don’t really get along so they battle, and as always the innocent civilians (water H2O) that the most casualties, by giving up its hydrogen and oxygen. This then builds up in the void of the pipe and is ready to be vented into your engine, by opening the valve. You may need to start your engine on gas then switch it off after the hydrogen starts burning.

    Electrical is a bit easier then Chemically.

    1. Simply take a small solar panel 1.5 amps is what I use ($9 at harborfreight.com), connect the 2 wires from the panel +- to 2 conductors (carbon cores of batteries work well, just be careful removing it from the jacket), but any conductive material will work ie. Copper, aluminum, steel, etc.

    2. Drop the wires into a water tank (I use 55gal drums), make sure they don’t touch each other.

    3. Drill a small hole (1/4inch or so) in the side close to the top, s******g in a small copper shut off valve. Place a few feet of stranded (food grade is good) flex hose to the valve and into the air intake of your engine (carburetor or fuel injections).

    4. Then simply add water, s***w on the top cap and wait.

    After a few hours tiny bubbles will form and rise off one conductor (that’s hydrogen) and even smaller bubbles that just looks like foam will rise off the other (oxygen). I don’t remember which likes the positive and which likes the neg hydrogen or the oxygen.

    The third method is more complicated and is what I use for my vehicles. It’s just a modified Joe’s Cell, there’s a step by step DIY guide available to walk you threw the process here www agua-luna com

It also covers the other 2 methods described in more detail.

www agua-luna com

Hope this helped, feel free to contact me personally if you have any questions if you’d like assistance in making your first self sufficient steps, I’m willing to walk you step by step threw the process. I’ve written several how-to DIY guides available at  www agua-luna com on the subject. I also offer online and on-site workshops, seminars and internships to help others help the environment.

Dan Martin

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Answer 4

They do not preform well in controlled experiments.