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Are large fighters like Margarito, Williams, Cintron who starve themselves to fight smaller guys Cowards?

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Fighters like Margarito, Williams, Cintron all natural Middleweights starving themselves to fight smaller guys like Cotto, Hatton, Mayweather should be made to weigh in just before the bought. It's obvious that Margarito came into the Cotto fight as a Middleweight. Are these guys cowards for avoiding fighters their size like Pavlik, Miranda, Taylor, Abraham, even an old Trinidad to have a size and strength advange over much smaller fighters?

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  1. lol must be a cotto fan eh?


  2. "HERE WE GO AGAIN"stop crying dude!your making up worthless excuses for your man cotto...and what you said about santos rocking margarito is b/s...watch the fight you r****d,santos was the guy getting rocked & santos started head butting & santos was ready to get koed & the fight was stopped due to cuts margo recieved from santos headbutts..they were in puerto rico so ofcourse they are gonna rob the mexican..i could name countless fights where mexicans get robbed to the hometown favorite...clottey was using the same dirty tactics against margo,clottey hurt his hand on margos cement chin & he started headbutting margo constantly...we all know oscar is gonna fight pacman for his last fight but margarito would ko oscar in less than 5 rounds! i guarantee it..

  3. De La Hoya just wants to get paid.

    Trinidad is no true warrior.  How many times has he fought recently and how many times did he retire?

    If you can make the weight then so be it.  Fight and don't complain when you get your *** beat.  Just because a guy is taller doesn't necessarily mean he's a bigger man.  The other guy could be fatter or more muscular.

    They are not cowards, they are smart.

  4. The point is to win.  You take advantage any way you can.  Boxing is a tough business.  At the weigh in the fighters are the same weight and that is that.  Cotto could have stayed at 140

  5. If you lose weight you will not have the strength to fight.

    Almost everyone loses some pounds to make the weight limit.

    Very few people walk around at their fighting weight.

    When you speak of people moving up, usually they did not gain weight to fight, but are now fighting at ther walk around weight.  

  6. No.  Everyone is on equal footing and can cut as much weight as they want.  Take into consideration that the more weight you cut, the more dehydrated you get.  It takes quite a bit out of you as you lose endurance.


  7. if they make the weight, then they are totally OK to even the fight. no excuses.

  8. I totally agree with you that a fighter should not starve themselves to make weight for a fight, because the put the weight back on the next day after weigh ins. but it is not the fighters fault nor are they cowards. the atheletic commissions allows this to happen.

    remember taylor and pavlik are actaully super mid/light hvy weights. most fighters starve themselves to make a certain weight. then just put it back on. cotto himself starved to be a junior welt at one point. hatton has to starve himself for that now. castilo to.

    Bhop at middleweight required a lot of starvation. i wouldn't call them cowards because if margarito fought pavlik(who would have to starve to get in at mid) would come in on the night of the fight at around 170+. where as tony would probably be around 154-160.

    remember the calzaghe-hopkins fight was at light heavy but they both came in the night of the fight above 180.

  9. Margarito walks around about 150, even when he's not training for a fight.  Mayweather is also like that, he stays about 148 year round.  Cotto on the other hand walks around at about 165 when not training. There are always going to be fighters that are considered big for there weight class, if these guys are really starving themselves they would be extremely weak and tired, which is polar opposite of the truth.

  10. Hey there Mr. Smartypants, if a fighter starves himself, he'll have no ability to fight.  They dehydrate themselves to make weight.  It's legal, it's within the rules.  Your boy Cotto should go back to 140 if he can't handle 7 extra pounds.  Stop whining.  

  11. No fighter is a coward if you can lose weight and get down to a lighter weight thenyou betterit,s called being smart and not being lazzy aka James Tony Michael Moore lossing weight is part of being a champion coming into a fight at your best fighting weight just because you walk around at 175lbs does not mean that you should fight at 175lbs you may only have to lose 5 lbs to be at your best fighting weight or you may have to lose 12lbs. to be at your best your trainer will help you with that

  12. As I've said before when people on this forum throw around the coward word, it is obvious to me that they've never boxed before. No man or woman fighter is a coward, it takes a lot of courage and heart to lace them up and go in to the ring and compete. Ask any fighter,amateur or professional, their plan is to come in right at the weight limit so they have an advantage physically in the weight class they are competing in. In order to train properly you can't "starve" yourself. Margarito may have had to cut weight in order to make 147, but take it from me, someone who's boxed before, cutting weight doesn't give you an advantage. If anything your electrolytes are imbalanced and nutrients are drained from your system by cutting weight. Margarito, Williams and Cintron's careers are far from over. They may very well step up in weight like other tall/big fighters in lower weight classes ala: Tommy Hearns.

  13. why don't you go to your local gym, and ask one of the guys there if he's a coward.

    its freakin hard to make weight, especially the more you take off.  and any competant trainer will want his fighter at his lightest possible weight.

  14. I do not agree with weigh ins the day before the fight. The should be the afternoon of the fight.

    It is a un sportsman like trick they do DeHydrating themselves to make the weight. When a guy is 5'11 and making the 147lb limit you know he is hydrating.

    To me it sais of the fighter that they are not good enough to compete with guys there own size so they "cheat" the weight and fight guys 20 lbs lighter then them.

    What angered me about Cotto-Margarito is that Cotto was 10 time the fighter Margarito was, the only problem was he was fighting a tough guy who was 20 pounds heavier then him. If Margarito showed up actually weighing 147 to 150 on fight night he could not have absorbed the shots from Cotto and his night would have ended before 6 rounds.

    Hopefully they will have weigh ins the day of the fight preventing these  guys from Re Hydrating them selves over night.

    Maybe it is technically legal to do, but what it is, is a loop hole, Its wrong but not illegal....yet.

    I have no idea what Margarito weighed on fight night, but he refused to step on HBO scales that night which tells me all I need to know.

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