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Are "Global Warming" Believers Just Scared of Modern Technology?

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I Ask this because Prince Charles, a leading AGW believer, is now discussing how genetically modified foods (GM) sometimes called 'Frankinfoods" by believers is going to cause the end of the world.

The same people that believe that mans products are destroying the world are the same ones that are fighting GM foods even though they are proved safe and used for the last 20 years without any issue are the same people who are trying to stop nuclear power, the new super collider, eliminate automobiles, and factories.

Is the issue about "Global Warming" more about eliminating mans intellectual progress with the desire to turn back the clock to "simpler" days before the industrial revolution?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2008/08/12/eacharles112.xml

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  1. Is the issue about "Global Warming" more about eliminating mans intellectual progress with the desire to turn back the clock to "simpler" days before the industrial revolution?

    You would have to think that most alarmists are intelligent enough to realize the folly of such a belief, that it is naive and downright stupid but their actions speak louder than their words IMO, and their words (in most cases) reveal an utter contempt for humanity, particularly the prosperous USA.


  2. You are correct - it is a combination of fear and lack of understanding.

    It is a new spin on the Malthusian Catastrophe.

    If it were really about CO2 for them, they'd support nuclear.    Greenpeace doesn't, UCS doesn't - in fact those groups didn't support nuclear in the 1970s - their opposition to it was a major factor in our building, instead of more nuclear plants, more coal and gas plants from the 1980s to today.

    So if CO2 is such a problem, they're largely to blame.

    But yes - there is an issue with the socialist anti-advancement types.

    "The only real good technology is no technology at all. Technology is taxation without representation, imposed by our elitist species (man) upon the rest of the natural world."

    —John Shuttleworth

  3. Eliminating mans intellectual progress??????? No man,  it's about making his process more intellectual without ruining our habitat. You know like the way a dog doesn't take a c**p next to his food dish. Get it now???

  4. No, they embrace modern technology, but despise the ancient technology we are forced to live with.   Internal combustion engines, thermal-electric power production and incandescent lights should have gone the way of the dodo bird many decades ago.    Unfortunately, people with too much money have too much invested in these old technologies to want to change to the modern technologies available now and better than those.    The global warming issue is about trying to advance us past the stalled stage we are in and move towards the future.

        Cell phones have supposedly been completely safe for the last 20 years.   Only the nuts thought they caused cancer.    Now, it turns out, the nuts were correct.

  5. As Ingrid pointed out, you've got it exactly backwards.  AGW proponents are the ones pushing for more advanced technology like electric cars, wind power, solar thermal, etc.  AGW deniers are the ones who want to keep us using the same old gas guzzling SUVs and coal burning power plants.

    GM foods and nuclear power plants have some benefits, but there are also legitimate concerns associated with them.  I think when used carefully and in moderation, they're useful technologies.

  6. First of all, I wouldn't use the word "scared," I'd use leery, or apprehensive, or cautious, or ?  

    Second, the topic of genetically modified foods is complex and the jury is out on whether the genie is okay being out of the bottle.  We're not likely to get a solid answer for decades, and by then it will be moot because any damage done cannot be undone.  Oops!

    Third, California is addressing emissions  and global climate change agency-wide, and technology is going to factor into solutions generated significantly. Modern technology?  California is cutting edge, of course it will be modern!

    Re Prince Charles and his background on all of this.  The man has done his homework, and his title is real, though it wasn't earned except by virtue of being born into the right family.

    As for your summation, the answer is a simple "No." Ain't gonna happen.

    Randall E: A quote back at you:

    "Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened." Winston Churchill

  7. No.  

    Modern technology is what enables us to understand global warming.

    Modern technology is what will enable us to solve it.

  8. Try not to stereotype. I personally accept the theory of AGW and I am a proponent of GM foods. In fact, I'm working towards a degree in Biotechnology so that I can develop genetically modified plants. I'm not scared of modern technology, I embrace it. I think that we should move past combustion engines and introduce electric cars. I'm not against the new super collider, or even nuclear power. It is possible to support technology and the environment at the same time.  

  9. It is attempt by the Left to cripple the US. It is also a scam to make lots of money. They are the same people that is against space exploration. They start falling behind and want to slow it down in the hope to catch up.I am a retired NASA Eng. and even I could not stay caught up.  

  10. Your question is funny because I think it's the other way around.

    The people who denies global warming are the ones saying we can't change to new technologies. They want to hang on to the 20th century use of fossil fuel and combustion engines.

    I think we can do better than that!

  11. No we're scared of over population and pollution. As far as food goes I don't eat any processed crapped {especially meat}. There is nothing wrong with technology when it is used to help, NOT MAKE CORPORATE RICH.

  12. What I see is that except for only a very few those that believe in AGW or as they are changing it ACC are anti nuclear, anti solar space or ground, anti turbines or any other realistic power solution other than going back to the pre technology dark ages. I see our current problem of people buying into peer review instead of scientific method as a key result of the decline in education in the western world:

    http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/undergrou...

    This on line book proves why Johnny can not read or think for himself.

    http://www.nss.org/settlement/ColoniesIn...

    This on line book shows some of the directions that skeptics want to use to solve the worlds problems now and forever. This is the view taken by the true skeptic who believes that technology applied with reason can solve any problem a civilization might encounter.

    http://dieoff.org/page25.htm

    This is the pessimist limits to growth view so popular with the AGW/ACC faithful who like the Luddites of old hate technology with a passion and want to return to the world of the late 18th century before modern technology reared is ugly stinking head and destroyed their comforts with noise, pollution and to many people to properly control.

    Those who believe in the anti technology mythic scam of global warming/climate change are ever in fear that the future described in Heppenheimers book will come true and our civilization will expand first into near space, hen into the rest of the solar system and eventually into the universe where even if the god of the liberals (the sun) dies or goes nova the human race will survive and grow on other worlds surrounding other stars. This is the dream of the skeptics and deniers of voodoo science, real science and real objectives not crawling back into the caves and shivering at the cry of wild wolves as those who promote the AGW/ACC believers limits to growth dream.

    Liberalism faltered when it turned out it could not cope with truth.

    - Daniel Moynihan


  13. no global warming  is real see the oil company dont want to change there new enrgy source

    1 type tpye 2 type 3

    now type 1 they can change the weather and they get there engery from there mother sun

    what are we type 0

    star wars are type 3 our techology is  a few 100 years when we get to with in 100 we go to type 0 to 1 but the terros dont want it oiol

    no if you go back in time change that our human race may not be here

    dc power then ac power wireless it to late we got to be smart and and let oif the gas pedel we can use HHO um the sun might hapend but within a 100 years


  14. I am a scientist and an engineer.  I create modern technology.  Your stereotyping is less than useful.

  15. I think if they were really worried about the CO2 in the atmosphere they'd be figuring out ways to sequester it from the atmosphere. Their only concentrating on one aspect of the equation, and not doing a good job with that, since they don't try and stop China and India from putting up coal power plants. Also what they want to change will take years to develop and to even see a significant change and in the mean time we still will be adding CO2 to the atmosphere.

  16. Personally, I think they just need something to complain about. Their belief is a religion.. you can't argue against it, because it's not fact-based, but faith-based.

    *Down with Big Brother*

  17. My answer is;

    I'll start off with Global Warming. It is Natural. What ended the Ice Age? So now we can move on to Does Man's Corporation Pollution and activities make it happen faster. I understand that England is becoming Good Wine country. So maybe, maybe not. We will probably need another 50 years of good studying to know a better answer but still not the whole picture. GreenLand isn't a Joke name.

    Nuclear Power, Fine but what do we do with the Waste that keeps on giving? Not too mention some Wackos getting into it.

    Genetically Altered Foods? Well how do you know what they've taken out isn't what keeps us form some stupid thing like Dying from the Common Cold? Or what are they Putting in? Keep my food natural Please. And cut out the Hormones!

    See, I believe that we are going to Sanitize ourselves to Death.

    Anti-Bacterial this and Disinfect that. How the h**l are our bodies supposed to have a Strong Immune System when you never give it anything to Fight?

    Our Food needs to be natural.

    Our energy needs to be clean.

    Our Factories need to be Responsible and not pollute in the Name of Money!

    This planet that God made is our only home.

    Global Warming takes away from the Real issue's of Pollution and Corporate Greed over people. Nothing wrong with making a little money just don't trash the Planet doing it. Please

    Hope my answer helps

  18. There is no way u can turn back to simpler days. Only thing u can do is take a break from daily routine and spend a few days holidaying in some remote place free from industrial noise, to refresh yourselves, your body and mind for next round of work.

    As for global warming is concerned, the nature has a tendency to mend itself someday it find it is burdened too much by manmade anti-natural products/procedures etc. The instruments nature uses are Floods, tornado, Tsunami etc.  to name a few so.

    Global warming will not happen abruptly and it is not going to swallow the earth al of a sudden. It might pose a danger, but not immediately. As earlier said, when the Global warming becomes a potential danger and is in the brink of destruction, the mother nature will find a solution to it, with out waiting for the mankind.

    The discovery of Global warming concept is yet another achievement of human knowledge of Universe. Publicity being given to it by the scientists is only a warning given to mankind to increase their attention towards diminishing  natural resources and to safeguard them. Educating mankind of the danger of global warming and thereby giving ways to safeguard natural resources will certainly improve the intellectual progress considerably with out having to go back to simpler days.  

  19. The use of coal as an energy source began in the 18th century. And the internal combustion engine began in ernest in the late 19th century.

    The inefficiencies and hazards of both are now well understood. It's time to move forward with new technologies.

  20. No, fear of global warming has made some technology more advanced. i.e. hybrid cars

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