Are the new plans to make unemployed do community work for the 'dole' fair? or is it a new form of slavery?

Question

Also If this is the case- where are these poeple going to work? if the economic climite cannot facilitate it. You also have to take into consideration the graduates with degree qualifications who cannot find work in their specialism?

Also the actual fact is that big business' are evading paying Tax to the tune of Billions of Pounds. Surely this idea is designed to shame those people on benefits in full view of the community?

Answer 1

I've been unemployed and was entitled to 6 months JSA at £57 a week , but only because I'd paid tax on over £4K of earnings in the previous two tax years.

I've managed to find work but was offered some ridiculously low paid options and often told I wasnt able to do work because I didnt have the right qualifications. I wasnt offered any help to get the relevant qualifications even though I enquired about it.

The work for dole is a knee jerk reaction that will do no good whatsoever. The next thing they'll be bringing back workhouses.

There are a hardcore of benefit cheats out there but their theft is minimal compared with big business tax avoidance

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one firm has a basic wage rate of zero pounds , and you wonder why some people are on the dole

Answer 2

LOL slavery

dear god..... I think I just weed a little.

Answer 3

It all depends on how it is managed. It could range from a huge waste of time, to hugely successful. Sometimes giving people something to do is great for building confidence and having purpose for getting up the morning. Based on past experience though, I suspect it may just be a waste of time.

Answer 4

I encourage you to look up "New Labour - New Deal 1997"

It's the same fecking thing for able bodied people. Now they are starting on the mentally unstable and infirm.  

Civil Uprising coming your way. Soon.

Answer 5

Nope.

It is a plan to get something out of lazy people.

Answer 6

Sounds like what's happening in the U.S. too!   All governments are, are greedy b******s.... but then again... that's what the govern  meant!  I totally agree with you!

Answer 7

i feel working in a JOB for someone else IS MODERN TIMES SLAVERY ANYWAY so working for free is just unbelievably slavery

Answer 8

No I think you'll find its work in return for money which is quite different to slavery.  And what about graduates?  Don't need to consider them at all.  If you need a job and can't find one you like then you have to take what is available.  And given that they will be doing "community work" is not going to affect anyone else.  Don't know whyt you slipped in that bit about big business evading tax as it doesn't seem to relate to anything else in your post.  I think the embarassment factor needs to be brought into a lot of things and nobody ever died of it.

Answer 9

For abled bodied workers-yes. Why not earn the money.

Answer 10

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Answer 11

How is it slavery if they are getting paid? If we continue paying out billions to the work-shy then we become slaves to them surely.

Answer 12

could be and might be funny as you sweep the streets but dont understand the language of those laughing at you  out of the estate windows still thats asylum for you whose the doctors and whose the patients

Answer 13

How is clearing up leaves or litter going to help some poor bloke who is made redundant from his job. What a waste of time. The biggest scroungers in this society are the unmarried mothers who knock out kid after kid but never go to work or live with their partners, they should be sterilised, their kids taken away and be made to clean toilets for their benefits. And all the blacks that come over here from Ungobungoland should be forced to scrape chewing gum off the pavement with their teeth for their benefits. Not the poor old British bloke who's on hard times. It's all a load of old cobblers anyway.

Answer 14

Just stop their money after 12 months, end of story!

Answer 15

Community service its fair new deal or bridge to employment unfair,  imagine being on the dole after 11 weeks then being forced to work in Mc Donalds for below the average wage.  Big companies like bigmac shouldn't be able to benefit from peoples misery.

Answer 16

What are you talking about, the slaves are the millions of drones going to work every day and paying horrendous taxes to keep irresponsible moochers on the dole.  No, taxpayers have been enslaved too long by the moochers who feel they're entitled to all the luxuries just because they've got 'problems' most of them self-inflicted, or simply can't keep their knees together and manufacture one baby after another as if the world needed more mouths to feed.  True there are some who need the help like the truly disabled and the elderly and they need to be properly taken care of.  But most are perfectly capable of paying their own way.  It's especially irritating when they take vacations to exotic places on benefits when the working taxpayer can't even afford to go to the movies on  friday night.  

No, it's the taxpayer who needs to be freed from  the chains of slavery.

Answer 17

It is slave labour , why should people work the same hours as others and only get £60 per week , it a bloody joke

er excuse me allen below , im a single mother of 2 , i am 31 and worked for 10 years solid, so how dare ypu say i am a scrounger  , i left my partner cus he was violent and also a lazy t**t , why should women have to live with violence> what about al the lazy married house wives who sit around claiming working tax credits and dont do nothing for it, once my baby can go to day nursery i will also be working as i hate staying at home

target the immigrants not us decent mothers

Answer 18

Yes I think it is fair - particularly to those who are benefit frauds. I think it unlikely the government would propose such an idea if there were no jobs for these people to do.  Also you cannot umbrella the 'jobs market', and chuck people on benefit in with graduates - there are too many different sectors, and they are not likely to go for the same kind of jobs. It's just not that black and white.

Big businesses evade tax so they can actually make enough profit to pay their employees - the government already takes A LOT of taxes from businesses big and small. The comparitive amount money lost through tax evasion would, I think, barely scratch the surface.

You are suggesting that big businesses should not evade tax so that people on benefits can have the cash.  I do not see how this concept relates to shaming people on benefits.

Your argument is flawed.