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Are there really surfer gangs that don't allow u to surf at public or private beaches?

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Wheather in Malibu or other parts of Southern California. If so where can people surf especially beginners.

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  1. at like places like pipeline. they have this thing where if you drop in on some one they blow a whiste and tell you to surf some where else


  2. ya, they exist, the only way to get around them is to make them feel bad, like i normally pull off a bunch of my crazy as* moves and i have my pals who are really tough

    if you have a private beach, like as part of your property, and people aren't letting you surf on your own property, then call the cops and they get aressted or fined for invading private property without a warrent or other stuff happens to them.

    surf with me, i'm normally nice

  3. A lot of people are just pains. Yes these groups do exist and they are territorial. Nothing like you see in the movies obviously but they will try and convince you to leave their prime territory. Usually these are groups that are highly competitive and have good sponsors, so they want to get the best area with the best waves and not have others they have to watch out for.

  4. some good crowded spots for beginners are piers i'd stay away from jetties and secluded breaks.  in general huntington is a good low animosity beach for beginners.  I surf the 56th street jetty in newport and let me tell you- some of the guys out in that lineup will try to fling their boards at the k*k's faces when they start showing up in summer..

  5. Yes, for sure. Just lame guys who think their hot ****.

  6. Yes and no. There are some beaches where the locals really are aggressive and will get into fist fights with outsiders, but that is fairly rare. There are lots of other beaches, where the locals are just plain fed up with the kook tourists, and they yell at them, but nothing else happens. As far as 'gangs' that's pretty much television/movie stuff, although there have been some nasty assaults over the years.

    In general, most bigger, public beaches will have a trace of "localism' but no violence. If you are learning, and taking lessons, you are perfectly safe. If you just grab a board and decide you are going to surf (even when you have no particular ocean skills) you are bound to p**s somebody off, and you will be surfing at your own risk.

    Surfing is an ocean sport, to do it right, you have to be at home in the ocean, with its currents, rips, undertows and sometimes big waves. I don't just mean being good at swimming in a pool, the ocean can be very unforgiving. I have seen lots of really good pool swimmers have to get rescued. You have to learn surf etiquette (so the experienced surfers in the line up don't want to drown you), how to paddle and take off on a wave, and how to ride a wave.

    Lessons are usually the best way to start, unless you are an adolescent or young adult with lots of pals who surf who can teach you. Go to a real surf shop. The folks there can hook you up with lessons, and even rent you a board to learn on. Knowledge and respect are your best defenses against surfing violence or anger.

  7. bra boys!

  8. Surfer "gangs" are usually simply referred to as "the locals". Every surf spot in the world has locals (http://aboutthebreak.com/surf_dictionary... the only difference among them is to what length a local will go to to keep outsiders from surfing his/her spot. Usually, locals only are willing to fight for spots with great waves: That's why localism is bad in Hawaii. On the other hand, I have witnessed grown men breaking the boards of fifteen year old's at one of the worst beaches in all of California while yelling that they've been "... surfing here for twenty years".

       Your best bet is to find a very public beach with plenty of room to space yourself from other surfers. It's sad that you would even have to worry about things like that...

       There are pleanty of places to surf in Southern California. http://www.AboutTheBreak.com provides reviews of some of the good ones and rates how bad localism is at each one. I think your best bet is to go for Huntington (http://aboutthebreak.com/huntington_beac... or some place similar because it provides numerous spots to paddle out and avoide crowds.

       One other thing to point out is that 90% of the fights in the water occur because someone isn't following the "rules". Yes, there are rules to surfing. You will learn most of them in time, but the one that you need to know before you even paddle out is that the surfer closest to the peak of the wave has the right of way. If you talk off in front of someone with the right of way you stand a good chance of getting your board snapped or at the very least a guy screaming two inches from your face.

  9. mate just try to stay away from the locals ay ull kno who they r coz there hard core surfers and hang in groups...so sit on the out side ov the break and dont ever drop in on a local ay coz ull b askn 4 it ay...it makes it dangerous 4 u and other surfers and where all there to catch waves so chill out and ur wave will come and try not to b a hero ay that S**t dont float and hello from sydney/australia thats what its like overhere but surfers r surfers its like that everywhere so take it easy k :)

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