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Are these fish compatable

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and what sized tank do i need

6 zebra danios

3 gold zebra danios

3 kyathit danios

6 rummynose

3 guppies (spare tank for fry)

1 bristlenose

1 mollie

1 plattie

1 swordtail

2 female bettas

2 kuli loaches

1 myers hillstreem loach

1 dwarf gourami

6 bronze corydoras

4 glass catfish

1 upside down catfish

1 hoplo catfish

and room for a few more fish

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  1. With about a 80 gallon Tank...300 Liters, ya'd be pushing it...not to mention the species you have selected.

    The Danios could eventually be food for the Upside Down Catfish...BTW who thrives better in a school of 3 or so...and needs lots of plant cover on top of the tank.

    The Mollie is happier in Brackish Water settings, and the Hoplo Catfish likes it slightly acidic.  The Dwaft Gourami would be Ok, but the 2 female Bettas....one would possibly fight the other into submission and possibly death...not that female Bettas cant be together...unlike their Male counterparts...you just need more than 2 females...more like 5.  And ya'd still need to watch the Dwarf Gourami...Gourami have Labyrinth organs like Bettas...and are actually in the same family...not to mention Male Gourami, including Dwarf Gourami, will fight Male Bettas.  I have had a female Betta with a Male Dwarf Gourami...and they did fine....but ya still need to watch them.

    I see this tank being highly planted and with LOTS of cover...floating and planted plants.

    The plattie, swordtail are out of place here.

    The Hillstream Loach and the Hoplo Catfish are better with sand...and the Hoplo digs...as im sure the Hillstream will also.  The Hillstream will also need a high flow of water similar to a river.  And oxygenation of the tankhas to be right on.

    Im not sure this tank will work...and if it did...I would think a 150 gallons...more room, hiding spaces, and less fights over territory).

    Jamie...really is right on with his answer.

    As for the ONE INCH/ONE GALLON RULE...one more time...if you have a 10 inch fish in a 10 gallon tank...he has only 2 inches lead way to turn around for the width of a 10 Gallon tank is 12 inches.  Not to mention 12 inches in height...and when laying the lenght of the tank which is 20 inches long...he would take about half the tanks lenght.  you dont thinka a fish this long...needs better filtration a 10 cant handle without strong current....and besides that...the waste, etc.  So the one inch/per Gallon would not and will not work.

    Best of Luck!


  2. All due respect to the other answers here, I think they have good intentions, but it's also quite a bit misleading you.  First things first.  If you follow ANY type of inches, or millimeters, or hectares, or decigamma's or WTF ever per gallon rules, you're going WAY WAY off course.  Don't even bother with that malarky.

    You know what that dumb **** for chit rule was made up for?  For pet stores to tell people how much fish to buy in a new tank.  For real.  It's a total crock and I can't tell you every single freaking way it fails to guide people in but here's some starters.  This fails to account for the surface area of oxygen needed for dissolving, fails to account for the levels in which fish dwell and interact, fails to account for waste control, fails to account for aggression and temperment, and completely fails to be realistic.  Based on this c**p, you are saying that you can put a 5 inch Arowana in a 5 gallon tank?  Someone better rethink their logic before spouting that bs off.

    What noone at all here is considering as well, is almost every single fish in your list is very low waste producing, along with either upper level dwelling fish and bottom feeders.  This shouldn't be much of a problem.  I think a 30 gallon might be pushing it, but you certainly don't need some triple digit sized tank.  It's just bush league to even suggest it.  The final sizes of all those fish don't even come close to justifying it.

    You could keep that stock in a tank as small as a 55 gallon tank.  What is ten times more important to consider then any kilometer per milliliter c**p is your tank foot print and filtration.  That will serve you a million times over and better if you pay attention to these things.I'd probably go with a 75 gallon tank footprint, that should do you quite well.  I'm sorry I don't play around with liters so you'll have to convert that, but trust me, you don't need to go breaking out your ruler and see.  If you go that route, you're going to be so far off base, you might as well try to build a rocket ship too.

    It's still the same concept that almost any experienced and capable fish keeper is going to say, it's an insane, and outdated concept that really needs to be put to rest.  Mature fish or not, applying what this bogus bs "rule" says, then that is what is says.  Ok so a full grown 16 inch Oscar in, and I'll be generous with your "rule" a 20 gallon tank?  Yeah ok.  It's better to not even go into that stupid c**p in the first place, because it fails to account for O2 levels, bacterial filtration, levels of occupancy, and compatiblity.  You want to try and again, being VERY generous with the inches to gallon rule, 2 male Green Terror's in a 55 gallon tank?  Way over the inches per gallon chit, yet that isn't going to work either because failure to account for aggression.  Too many holes with that malarky.

  3. my advice is to go to a site that sells fish like petco or marine in more to check their compatibility but get a male betta it will only attack other male bettas

    but try not to get that many fish in one tank because it might stress them out but if you have to at least get a 55 gallon

    it may not be what you want to hear but its the truth  

  4. Other people have already told you on what tank size you need. So i'm going to say what I want to say about the fish you're choosing.

    Mollies, swordtails, and platties do better in groups. So you will need two more of each. Why not just choose one of them, and get three instead of one.

    Now, the female bettas.. They do better in groups of odd numbers. So you will need 3 or any odd number higher than that.. 2 will fight.. In odd numbers, the aggression is balanced and they wont fight as much..

    I suggest you narrow down your choices, and just get half of what you've just listed. Sorry if it seems like I'm being rude.

  5. at least a 30 gallon

  6. someone said a 140 gallon. I would have to disagree. I would say at least 180. the 1 in per gallon is not the best rule. They will fit into a 140 but you would need a ton of plants. If you don't want plants I would say that you need the 180.Wider is better. You need maximum O2 diffusion. You will have a lot of fish. For a tank this large I would recommend making your own sump filter. Otherwise you will be dishing out a few hundred for a wet dry or something like that. you can't get a hang on filter that big. Maybe you could get an in tank corner filter. the sump would be the best choice.

    Forget the mollie they need brackish water. The hillstream loach needs A LOT of O2 and they need cold water, as well as fast moving water.

    I see you want even more fish. Get a 225.

  7. Based on your current list alone you would need 140 gallons minimum and that has NO ROOM for more. So if you want room for more I would suggust 150 to 180 gallons so you have plenty of room and so do your fish. Yes they all are compatible. I would also suggest having two filters that are made for the gallons you get for example if you get 140 gallon tank I suggest getting two filters that are made for 140 or more gallons. Good Luck!

    Edited to add:

    To the one who said 30 gallons What in the world??? The rule of thumb is one inch of mature fish to every gallon, if everyone of those fish were 1 inch 30 gallons still wouldn't be enough!!

    I will list everything so it is clear:

    6 zebra danios (2 inches each = 12 inches total)

    3 gold zebra danios (2.5 inches each = 7.5 inches total)

    3 kyathit danios (3.25 inches each = 9.75 inches total)

    6 rummynose (2 inches each = 12 inches total)

    3 guppies (2.5 inches each = 7.5 inches total)

    1 bristlenose (5 inches total)

    1 mollie (4 inches total)

    1 plattie (2.5 inches total)

    1 swordtail (5 inches total)

    2 female bettas (3 inches each = 6 inches total)

    2 kuli loaches (4 inches each = 8 inches total)

    1 myers hillstreem loach (3 inches total)

    1 dwarf gourami (2 inches total)

    6 bronze corydoras (3 inches each = 18 inches total)

    4 glass catfish 6 inches each = 24 inches total)

    1 upside down catfish (4 inches total)

    1 hoplo catfish (6 inches total)

    For a grand total of: 136.25

    ~I wouldn't get a male betta for the meer fact that yes they only attack other male betta's BUT since you are wanting guppy the male betta will mistake the guppy (the fancy fins) and will attack the guppy

    ~If you are thinking 200-300 litres that isn't even close to enough for all the fish you want, you will need to decide which fish you really want and make sure to keep in mind the ones that like to school and such.

    ~I agree you wouldn't put a 10 inch fish in a 10 gallon tank, but putting 10 inches worth of smaller fish is fine, sorry if I didn't clarify that, but I really didn't think I needed to considering non of his choices are really large. Also about the arowana, thats not a really good example considering that arowana's get to be aroun 3ft long!! So putting them in a 5 gallon tank would definately not work. Also if you are talking about me using the rule when your saying rethink before you spout out bs I think YOU need to rethink before you spout of bs because that was a horrible example and shows you aren't even thinking or don't even know. Besides that if you try to justifiy it I indeed said MATURE fish not fish when you get them.

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