Are you happy to have Identity cards?

Question

I am not. I feel its an invasion of privacy. And realistically it will not stop the people we are being told its to stop. Terrorists and illigal immigrants. Its just another 'big brother' facade from the government, to monitor our every move, brought in on the back of a 'terrorist attack', to justify it.

quoted from enlightened godess "...The government has now proved itself to be incapable of protecting the details of the citizens of this country, should we now also launch a country wide campaign against the introduction of Identity cards?" I say YES we should.

Answer 1

No i am not.

So,

i will give no information.

i will not pay for one.

i will not carry one.

any id card that comes through my door will be cut up with scisors and thrown away.

Answer 2

You probably already carry several ID cards...driver's license, social security card, credit cards, school/work ID...that you carry voluntarily. Why would one more bother you so?

ID cards are to insure you are who you say you are, period. If you build up a great work history, do you want someone else to ruin it for you..or would you rather have the security guy check her ID. What about credit history, driving history? Do you really expect everyone to take everybody at their word? Are you willing to bet your credit history, your diving record, school accomplishments on just someone's say so?

I would rather carry one more ID card, if it insures that illegal aliens don't get the same benefits I, and other law-abiding Americans have rightfully earned.

Carrying an ID is not an invasion of privacy, it is a protection of privacy, and it helps protect us from the illegal invasion already going on.

Answer 3

well it wont be the first time we have had i.d. cards, world war 2, they were issued then.

Answer 4

I LOVE the idea.  I love the reality even better, for the very reasons the government says we need it.  I'm not afraid of losing my freedom.  I'm very glad to find a more domestic way to protect it.  God Bless you.

Answer 5

I don't want Id cards because the government hasn't proved that they can store our information safely, in the paper today discs were lost with the child benefits agency information on them. if they don't care about our bank details, national insurance numbers and child benefit numbers then how can we trust them with everything else?

Answer 6

It's frightening that so many folk are simple enough to have the idea that if you've nothing to hide then it's somehow ok. And what's the purpose of ID cards exactly - to stop terrorism? About as successful as not having a driving licence stops anyone driving then. Get real, people. ID cards has nothing, repeat nothing, to do with terrorism but it's a good ruse. It has to do with control.

Answer 7

NO. They have my national insurance number already...

I used to be a member of a gun club (legally) but that was shut down after the gun law. Now only criminals have access to pistols...

Do you really think that an ID card will stop a terrorist from blowing us up?

The government are only interested in our money.

Answer 8

no thay will never ever get mine

Answer 9

No I would not trust this or any other government with the details on them. They may tell us that ID cards are required in European Countries but that is their problem. I am a freeborn Englishman and I know who  I am and will tell them if challenged

Both you and I carry enough around to prove out ID from your Bankers card on. We do not need ID cards which ultimately will

be used for population movement control. ie n**i Germany and occupied countries, USSR  there will be others

Answer 10

h**l NO.  Our founding fathers are rolling in their graves because of the Patriot act and the National ID card.

Oh wait, there was a country that had a national id  type system.  Seemed to control their "terrorist".   Just ask an old German Jew to show his/her ID number.  If you can find one.

"They that can give up liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania

Answer 11

I don't have any I.D. of any kind. I don't have an address. I don't have a bank account. Factually speaking, I AM, also without S.I.N.(Slave Identification Number). Most people are unaware that when Government capitalized your name on your I.D. they are "Legally" making you their slave as the Legal definition for a "person" has been under-written and re-defined.

Everyone knows a person's name should look like this; "John Doe" and not this; "JOHN DOE"...look at ANY of your I.D. and see which you are..."legally". Now sue the Government for enslavement.

Answer 12

I wouldn't care if the government knew almost everything about me, what does it matter? Why should I care? As long as my details aren't given to companies for advertising i.e spam, junk mail, cold calls etc, how does it affect me? It doesn't.

What it does do is make my own personal details much more difficult to replicate and reduces fraud or possible identity theft. If you had to give photographic evidence and fingerprint/retina i.d for simple things like credit cards/bank accounts etc, how can that be forged? I'd have peace of mind if I lost my bank cards they couldn't be used, and that people coming in and out of the country are properly checked, (and stopped) potentially stopping many criminals/terrorists entering our country. Why do we have to wait until a successful terror campaign is launched (already going on) and possibly thousands of people killed before we initiate simple things like i.d cards to help prevent such terrible things? So what, someone at Whitehall knows how much I earn, where I live and what I buy at the supermarket? Not a big deal is it?

Answer 13

No, and I shall refuse to have one!!!

They will not prevent terrorism.This is the biggest myth in the book. I think they will lead to higher crime,after all, the black market is always ready to queue for fake ID and passports.Then there is my personal freedom and privacy,in order for ID cards to be effective, they need to be checked and verified against a national computer database containing verified information. The government's track record of managing even small scale computer projects is extremely poor!! Identitiy theft? There is no such thing as a secure online computer database. The only guaranteed safe way of protecting data is not to make it available online.What about the future? Is there worse to come? Because ID cards are destined to fail to provide the level of security that the government is touting and predicting,(that is what we will be told) are ID cards merely a stepping stone to more draconian and Orwellian schemes? Implantable micro-chips? The government can't take huge jumps, purely because the public would see through their motives and agenda. Thus, they have to make little steps at a time.The government would like you to believe that national security and the elimination of terrorism, benefit fraud and other crimes would be dealt with by having ID cards......I believe that's merely a cover story to fool the public. Terrorists aren't deterred by ID cards,in fact, they'll probably be first in the queue to get one. After all, people who actually want ID cards have nothing to hide, have they???

They will also  cost us money..They're having a laugh! - but the joke's on us!

Answer 14

I would be happy to forego identity cards IF everyone who doesn't want one would agree that, in exchange, they aren't eligible for government services since they'd chosen to not be identified as a citizen.

Maybe it would lighten the load on the NHS a bit -- we could use that, eh?

Answer 15

I am entirely opposed to the proposed UK ID card and I shall tell you why.

1.  UK.gov insist that when every citizen has a National ID card, it will be much easier to deal with terrorism in UK.

WRONG - every single Spanish citizen who got blown up in the murderous train bombings in Madrid were carrying their faithful Spanish ID cards.  These cards did not save one single life.

2.  The proposed UK.gov State ID card for UK citizens will not act as a Passport, as is the case with the French ID card where a citizen of France can come to England by simply jumping on the next EuroStar and showing their French ID card on arrivel or noboard the train if asked by the HM Customs.

3.  The government's inability to keep control even of it's own documents, proves conlusively that they are not to be trusted with private information about us.  Already the private details of 25 million British citizens have been lost/stolen due to the carelessness of UK.gov and it's minions.

I could say more about this...

Answer 16

Personally i don't have problem with ID cards.  If u got nothin to hide whats the problem ?

Answer 17

if it catches one scumbag terrorist & one scumbag illegal immigrant it is a worthwhile scheme !!!

Answer 18

Simple answer, no, I also object to the NHS database (Spine) which you can't withdraw from. How long before those disks go missing. It won't stop illegal immigrants or terrorists they will just produce their own. I expect criminals are further advanced with them than the government.

Answer 19

The National ID card scheme in the UK is little more than an open invitation for criminals to steal your identity. With the right software, hackers will be able to  crack ID card security in minutes and the wheels are already in motion to enable them to do so.

If the government are as lax with the id card database as they were with the child benefit one, everybody will be at great risk of having their identity stolen and criminals will be able to get access to all your details, accounts, e.t.c, whether they are held on the card or not.

The fact is that even the government are now having second thoughts. Although Gordon Brown himself still seems to favour the idea, I suspect that serious doubts are being expressed by various members of the cabinet.

The government have been  twisting themselves into knots trying to justify id cards, and have failed to do so on almost every level. ID cards will do nothing to combat the threat of terrorism, in fact considering the high risk of identity theft they will probably make it easier for terrorists to operate. For similar reasons, ID cards will do nothing to combat benefit fraud and will do nothing to combat illegal immigration.

So it begs the question, what exactly are ID cards for?

The government have already stated that they will sell the data from the national ID database to third party companies in order  to pay for the cost of the scheme. So, I suspect the real reason this government has in mind for ID cards is to gather marketing information, so that businesses can inundate us with "targeted" spam and junk mail.

In the future, however, who is to say that an even more unethical government couldn't use ID cards as a very sinister means to limit our freedom and our right to privacy?

The "nothing to hide, nothing to fear" argument does not stand up to close scrutiny. If we have nothing to hide, why would the authorities want to intrude into every aspect of our lives and keep tabs on us all? Honest, upstanding citizens must never be treated like criminals. Besides, it has now become obvious  that, whether we have nothing to hide or not, the government cannot be trusted with our personal details.

And to add insult to injury the government wants everyone in the UK  to buy  their own ID card, at an estimated cost of between £100 and £300 per card. So a family of four might have to shell out as much as £1,200 simply so that the government can keep tabs on them, sell their details in order to target marketing at them and expose them to a high risk identity fraud.

This ridiculous ID card scheme is completely unacceptable and must be opposed at all costs. I refuse to carry an ID card under any circumstances. If we all did the same, the scheme would fall down around the government's ears and they might just see sense. Given the current embarrassment over the lost child benefit records in fact, I'm hoping they will see sense before it comes to that.

Answer 20

In Northern Ireland there are two cards One is the driving licence with your photo on it small plastic card the other is the council identity used to vote both are fine cheap not costing an arm and a leg. I would ask do we really need something costing millions. my answer would be no keep it simple If your p to no good and have the money and backing they will find ways round it

Answer 21

If they introduce them I will probably move abroad.  The implication behind them is that the government assumes us all to be criminals unless we can prove otherwise, an implication that I am far from happy with.

Answer 22

I have been carrying an identity card, with my photo on it, since March 19, 1957. It hasn't bothered me one bit and I don't see any invasion of privacy from carrying one. In addition I have another one with my photo on it for air and other travel. It's called a U.S. passport. And I don't feel any invasion of privacy from that one either.  But, then again, my paranoia meter is set quite low.

Answer 23

I believe identity cards might be useful in many ways but I am concerned that the Government will use them to raise funds.

I would also be worried about some of the information they intend to include on the card and how they could properly control the secretive information held on file. I would be concerned that they would undertake the operation on the cheap and cut corners.

Answer 24

No, not ever. I had an ID card when I was a member of HM Forces. That was justified. ID cards for civilians aren't. They'll cost you, and not just financially. All of your information will be stored on them. The main database will duplicate it, and couriers will lose it between one Gov site and the other! The liberty and freedom of this country is being eroded by a power hungry civil service and parliament. They want to record the details of your travel within the UK as well as outside. And sell any revenue generating information to the highest bidder.

They can shove their ID's where the sun will never shine. They do us no favours.

If you care about this subject, join www.no2id.net.

Let's take back the Britain we knew and loved.

Answer 25

if i'm sent for to do something for the card i will not go what will they do on me

Answer 26

no. dont trust this government with anything , they are untrustworthy

Answer 27

I haven't got any.

Answer 28

ID cards will have embedded RFID chips... this is the lead in to having the same chips implanted in the head or in the hand as per the book of revelations ( www.verichipcorp.com ).  If you drive a car, your new inspection stickers have embedded RFID. If you carry a credit card or bank card, you carry one or two (or more already). Cell phones emit a signal every 6 seconds to let the networks know your exact location in a given network.

They are already tracking on many levels. Now they intend to personalize it.

Understand the truth of the matter... we have a one party government with 2 clearly defined factions. It does not matter which of the two factions within the party you support. It no longer matters because the Bilderberg Group controls our government in the interest of pursuing their own agendas. Our government is supposed to be a reflection of We The People, and it should be in support Our agendas. Instead, our government expects us to be a reflection of them, and support their agendas.  

Does anyone not remember the smokescreen in Florida during the Bush/Gore election? Who is the governor of Florida? and who is their Father?  Or the fact Kerry so graciously 'conceded' his run for office near the end? Bush and Kerry are both members of Skull and Bones... a chapter of the Bilderbergs in America. John F. Kennedy Televised his speech about secret societies in America... and was assassinated shortly thereafter.

The simple fact here is that our votes no longer count and the Electoral College does not represent We The People either (it is also bought and paid for by the Bildeberg Group). It is a clever facade to keep us comfortable in the illusion that we actually have a choice in the matter. The next US President has already been bought and paid for, and I can assure you that person is not on the side of We The People.

When you consider that several members of our government (like Hillary Clinton and Rick Perry, to name two, and believe me, there are many others) have been witnessed attending Bilderberg meetings in secret with other foreign heads of state (which is considered an act of Treason) it should give us all a strong cause for more than just concern.

The bottom line here is that our trusted government is a puppet regime guided and controlled by the globalist elite. They are manipulating more than just America. They have already engineered and and finalized the European Union, and I can assure you they have no intention of stopping there. Already, our current President has signed documents that effectively Eliminate the United States, and also eliminates the most vital aspects of our constitution, and also grants the office of President sole jurisdiction and power. Power to inflict martial law upon the American People among other things. This was done without the consent of Congress. Keep in mind, Prescott Bush, our current President's grandfather aided in funding Adolph Hitler. George Bush, our current president's father asked America on national television to forgive the n**i war criminals.

These emergency camps that FEMA is building around the country are not for emergencies. These are Interrment Camps (concentration camps) where the Government intends to depopulate the US.

Has no one noticed all the cameras going up on our Highways and our neighborhood streets? Or that your vehicle tags and inspection stickers now come equipped with RFID Chips? Or that every Legal Immigrant must get a new Green Card issued (one equipped with an RFID Chip).

Do none of you realize yet that the new drivers licenses and US Passports will also have RFID Chips, as will the "Real ID" when it is passed into law? For that matter, most of us already carry in our wallets bank cards and credit cards that have embeded RFID chips in them. Some Companies now require their employees to have RFID Chips implanted in their bodies (on the hand). I can assure you that these companies are arms of Globalist Elite controlled companies. Who do you think pays Verichip Corporation to do what they are doing?

If it has a basis in FACT it is not propaganda.

At this point in time, we all have the choice to be the blind sheep that follow on command and submit to their hypnotism and programming, or We can stop living in fear of losing all we have as individuals and start thinking as a free society with a common interest...protecting our inalienable rights. The thing everyone needs to realize is that if we continue to blindly follow as sheep, we will lose it all anyway.

Time to Wake Up to the reality of what is truly going on here.

Fear can be our Strength... or fear can be our weakness.

When the Grip tightens around Your Family's throats, what will fear be for YOU?

Answer 29

I would not accept an identity card as I do not trust the government to change the information on it or sell the information to the highest bidder.  This government is morally corrupt and is getting worse each year.  Once these cards are issued, what is to stop them demanding more and more information ie, medical records, DNA testing which could then be passed onto insurance companies and the like which could affect people's lives in ways not yet thought about.

We have identity in the form of passports/driving licence/student cards etc.  We do not need more.  This information tells others what they need to know - and not more!

Countries with ID cards have still had attacks ie, Spain - it is another Government excuse.  The only good thing - in the government's eyes is that they will raise alot of money with it.

We have all got something to hide - we just might not be aware of it yet.  This is a risk too far and must be stopped!

Answer 30

o would refuse to have one, even if they sent me to prison, if the had to send millions of people there think they may back down!

Answer 31

if it catches one scumbag terrorist, or one scumbag immigrant? , naivety in the extreme