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Army Problems! Can Anyone Help Me Please? Seriously?

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Before i joined i never realized what h**l hole i was getting myself into. In basic i started having moral and strong ethical beliefs that war is wrong no matter what the circumstances are. Jesus never fought his enemies, but instead loved them and accepted this, since it was part of Gods hand. My beliefs are not completely based on religioun, but more ethical and moral wise. I dont believe the use of force, lethal or non-lethal damage should be used in any way. Instead, i believe in critical debates and negotiations and that there is always a solution to everything. I just believe that the killing of our brothers is wrong no matter what the circumstances are. I;ve been in Korea for about a month as my first duty station and hate the fact that im in an establishment that trains people to kill their fellow human beings, and supports violence. I highly respect people in the Army for doing what they believe is right andmean no disrespect toward them, but when it comes down to it i could never fire a weapon at a living creature, engage in violent activity, or deal even non-lethal damage to anything/one...those are just things that i believe in strongly. I first thought i was going through a phase when i was in basic/AIT but i realized that these beliefs were real when i steadily continued to procrastinate againt the Army even while I was with my loved ones on leave for over about 28 days. I disagree with several things that the Army supports and feel as if im really wasting not just my time but also the Army's. I've reported my feeling to my squad leader and team leader, and they said they informed my LT. of it and will see what will happen. I want to ask them more, but figured some civilians would help me out on info. Is there anything i could do of my problems? Any discharges that could be put on me, and be fully separated from the Army and this nightmare that i live in? Because of my beliefs, and knowing that im involved in an estblishment that all goes against what i believe in; I have'nt been able to sleep right, i sleep walk, dnt eat as much, and am depressed and stressed out every minute of the day..Please help me with good information anyone.......Thank You and God Bless.

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  1. I respect your beliefs and will try not to berate you for them.  However, since you have "changed your mind" and now feel you can't fulfill your Army contract with respect to using military tactics to defend your freedom, then I suggest that instead of looking to be discharged, you ask what else there is for you within the Army that does not require you going against your beliefs.  You didn't mention what AIT training you had and what other skills you have that could change your current position.  I strongly suggest you contact your chaplain for help.


  2. Well first off, id hate to say it but joining the army with those beliefs...probably not the best thing.  Second.  to get discharged....i had a friend who was in the marines and he got caught on drug use.  They said he could get a honorable discharge if he does...this this and this. he didnt do it, but its just a suggestion.  He might have gotten a great deal and didnt tak the oppurtunity.  I wouldnt take the chance though. good luck

  3. Go see the base chaplin and tell him what you feel.  You can be reassigned to something that doesn't have to fight.  There is nothing wrong with the way you feel, and the Army knows that, too.  I knew many people that didn't fight but were in the Navy when I was in in the Vietnam Era.  Someone has to stay home and man things that need to be done.  You can be one of those while serving in the service.  

  4. ....yes, go to the Chaplin.....do not tell him you want out o fht emiulitay!

    ..you will regret that you wil regeret forever (all of your life)

    ....just ask him pressing questions about his capacity in the military

    ...how he manages to remain motivated and successfully meeting the cchallenges we all face 'every mf day of our lives'

    ....and unless you exhibit mental challenges, you wil find growth and motivation to be a good employee of the best mf fighting machine in the history of the world!!!!!

    ...he can help with your children if you need, and he can help you find motivation to challlnege yourself and rise up in this world we all find as a whole' in an oasis'

  5. I wonder how much you would hate the military life if you were somewhere other than korea.

  6. Some of the physical problems you are now having tells me you need to get some counseling first of all.  Basic can put a lot of mental and physical stress on some people and not all of them handle it very well and it sounds like you are not.  Secondly and at the same time, you need to understand and realize that you are now an adult and held more accountable and responsible for your actions.  You need to learn from this mistake and try to make the best of it!  The Army may or may not be as understanding about all of this.  With the help of some counseling you might be able to get some of this all sorted out and there are ways of getting out but a lot also now depends on what the Army will want.

  7. The best you can do is talk to your chaplin. There are conscientious objectors. You sound like that is what your position is. If this is so you may have to research it a little.

    It seems odd though that you would come to this conclusion after enlisting. I don't want to be judgmental, but people who have those objections usually do not enlist.

    At any rate check out the link I provided below. They have information about being a conscientious objector.

    You might be able to change you military career to another field that isn't combat...like medicine. I was a Navy Corpsman. Though we do go into combat, we are there to save lives...There are also Chaplins assistants and a few other jobs.

    I'm a veteran now.

  8. Dear Brother I hate to tell you this, but I am a christian to and you have join the military and Paul says..

    Romans 13

    Submission to the Authorities

    1Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. 4For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience. 6This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing. 7Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.

  9. Time to visit your chaplin.

  10. You just figured this out after you signed up, eh? Right... ok I suggest you go talk to your chaplain who will be able to help you go from there, although don't expect too much pity.

  11. way to try to cop out of your contract..

    In other words you couldn't hack it and felt like using any excuse to get out, and because being g*y doesn't cut it anymore..

    Want an easy way out?

    Stop showing up for work.. again and again.

    When they call, say you're on the way.

    Don't show up.

    after a few article 15's youll be on your way out..

    Good luck

  12. People really do misunderstand so many things; Jesus never preached really against war or self defense and did say to keep the 10 Commandments.  The "Thou shalt not kill" is a translation thing that means you do not commit murder.  Jesus also said that  "let he is without a sword sell his cloak and buy one" which indicates he did believe in self defense and that war or killing is  sometimes necessary.  You can go see the Chaplain and see what can be done and it is possible you could get moved into a non-combat or support role; many pacifist have served in the military in those roles including medics/corpsman and chaplain's assistant so you could possibly see about that.

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