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As a liberal i want to confess and also ask other liberals about their true self?

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I like the idea of supporting minority (hispanic, black, asian, whatever) people, but I really do not want to live in any of their neighborhoods, so am I the only one who feels this way?

No rude comments because I know Hispanics who don't want to live in Hispanic areas and i know African-Americans who don't want to live in their neighborhoods, and the same for Asians.

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  1. So minorities, only  live in lower socio economic areas? Does this involve just "Ghettos". Or where ever there is a large group of people whom are moniorities. Do you think you suffer from some type of Xenophobia?

    Do I not want to live in any of their neighborhoods? I do not want to live in the Ghetto, been there done that, and worked d**n hard and made some good decisions to get out of there. But I have spent time in both Japan and Mexico and I love people of other cultures, how else can you know about the world? So you are probably not the only one. But you give the rest of us bad names.


  2. Okay, but if there are so many who don't want to live in neighborhoods labeled 'black, hispanic, asian etc...' why is that? I assume it's because of the crime rate. As politically INcorrect as it sounds...if THEY feel that way...there's a problem! Why would we ('we', meaning decent citizens of ANY race) want to support people who will only bite the hand that feeds them? I'm ALL FOR people of all races, living together in harmony...but I don't want to support people who are constantly trying for upheaval and self destruction. Why PLAN on SUPPORTING ANYONE forever?

    I know this also sounds very politically incorrect, but people who say things like "  like the idea of supporting minority (hispanic, black, asian, whatever) people" don't realize how they've just SLAMMED minorities. It makes it sound like you actually believe they're NOT as capable as the majority...to support themselves! As if they're too uneducated and handicapped to MAKE something of themselves. That only feeds the problem!

  3. No, you are not the only one who feels this way. But I for one don't think the way you do. I'll live by anyone so long as they respect my property and behave with decency. The ethnicity does not matter.

    But it's your way of thinking that will forever keep us divided.

  4. You're not being truthful. What makes you a liberal is having a double standard because of your guilt. You feel guilty for not helping minorities and you feel guilty because by helping them, you are helping making a neighborhood unhospitable.

  5. I don't care who lives in a neighborhood, but I want one that's first, safe and second, friendly, and third vibrant.  The problem is that oftentimes the unsafe parts of town happen to be predominantly minority.

  6. I am not a liberal but I am a Democrat.  I feel the same way to a certain extent.  I don't want to live in Harlem, the Bronx, Oakland.  Or certain parts of it.   I do not want to, not because of skin color in the neighborhood but because of the danger it would impose on my family.  There are parts of this country that cab drivers will not go to.  Blame that on what you want.

  7. My guess is that it breaks down to social rather tha n racial groups.  There are probably exclusively white inhabited trailer parks you would not want to live in too.

    What usually attracts peace loving people to an area is the quality of housing, schools and public amenaties in that area.  Part of what you pay for when buying a home in a 'good neigbourhood' is the price keeping drunks, drugs, street gangs and crime away from your doorstep.

  8. I don't think that communities should be segregated, that's just silly.  I grew up in a school with two black kids, one Jewish kid and the rest were white.  I hated it, I was so happy to get out in the real world and be in a community that was not so isolated from minorities.

    I now live in a community that's pretty diverse, it has an Excellent school district (the top rating in our state) and my kids are getting to know people who are different from them.  I would hate to have my children isolated from the world!

  9. It's ok, I'm not exactly dreaming about living in your mostly wasp-country either. However, I strongly think we should find spaces to get closer to each other little by little, leaving fear and prejudices aside.

    We're just not ready to live as a happy family yet (but we have to  keep it as a goal for the future). Understanding other cultures is something gradual, but you have to start doing it now!

  10. well your assuming that all neighborhoods with a race majority are bad neighborhoods. Thats not the case.

    When it comes to immigrants in ethnic ghettos ...

    (Ghetto: a section of a city, esp. a thickly populated slum area, inhabited predominantly by members of an ethnic or other minority group, often as a result of social or economic restrictions, pressures, or hardships.)

    ...people usually find themselves in that certain area due to language barriers which is more often than not, the cause of their economic hardships.

    There is a cycle of violence and instability in any type of ghetto, mainly due to the oppressive and hopeless nature of them.

    Example: Cheap housing... appeals to those who are financially insecure... those tend to be desperate for stability... desperation leads to violence and drug abuse.

    One thing you must remember is that the "white" ghettos are equally unstable. It is not a case of race that defines those neighborhoods, its the unpredictable nature of a self loathing community struggling for financial and educational gains.

    With financial security we gain a self awareness and an attachment to those things that make us a socio-economic driven society. We lose that hopelessness and become self respecting community members who fall in line with the rules and ordinances that create a community.

    The only way to help renew those ghettos is to renew a sense of life and commonality in its residents. For starters; education at an early age is key.

    There is no shame in living in a bad neighborhood, there is no shame in leaving one either.

  11. I guess I don't personally agree with your premise because I am a liberal and while living in Chicago as a white school teacher in an all-black school, I decided to put my money where my mouth is.  I bought a home 2 blocks from the school.  All of my students (4th grade) were called Mr. or Miss and their last name as one of the first lessons in respect.  We celebrated cultural diversity (my father was Jewish and my mother a Catholic) and learned a lot from one another.  That was 20 years ago and "my kids" still write to tell me I was the first white person they learned to trust and that lesson got them a long way in the world.  Before the first school year was over, the older boys were walking me home because they feared for my safety, but even the street gang members told me to my face that they would not hurt me because I respected my kids and they respected me.  They have grown up to be doctors and lawyers and one, a state senator.

    I retired to the south and chose my home because it was on the water.  It happens to be an ethnically diverse neighborhood and some of my best friends and truly best neighbors are black.

  12. Depends on the neighborhood....Bel Air  sure...Harlem...I think not.

    So are you a raciest...do you assume all blacks and Hispanics live in the ghetto?  I hear Oprah is doing pretty good.

  13. I always have lived in mainly black neighborhoods and don't really have a problem with it. They have been fairly decent neighborhoods though.. I wouldn't want to live in the bad areas, which are mainly black as well though.. And I'm pretty sure most of them don't want to live there either..

    As far as Asian and Hispanic neighborhoods? I don't think I'd have a problem with that either..

  14. If you want to support them, don't vote for democrats. Democrats won't allow school competition - otherwise known as vouchers, and tend to pursue policies that create dependence on government which also demotivates people. Howard Dean said that himself.

  15. It’s normal to want to live in a nice area (and to not want to live in a bad area). The people in those communities live there by choice. They can leave and move to a nice community where they can get a nice job just as easily as you or I can. They live there because the Gov. will subsidize their apt. for them and give them food stamps and other things. The best way to support those “minority groups” who live in those bad areas are to cut off funding them, so it will motivate them to move away and realize they can make it on their own. Look at New Orleans after Katrina. Many people left (because the hurricane forced them to) and realized they are better off elsewhere earning a living on their own rather than taking Gov. hand-outs and never came back.

  16. I don't have any problem living in the neighborhoods of other ethnic groups, as long as I am not the only person of my own ethnic group living there.  As a single woman, I have a greater need to feel that I am living in a safe neighborhood, however, because living alone makes a woman more vulnerable than it does a man.  *sm*

  17. Why do you assume that other liberals are hiding their "true selves" simply because you are?

  18. I lived in a suburban neighborhood which was mainly Jewish and all the large houses went from seven hundred thousand to over a million. As a very liberal person, I won't even mind living in any neighborhood as long as it is safe and has a decent environment that suits my needs. I don't believe race matters because pigments in our skin is the only thing that determines what color of skin we have.

    Genetically, we are all the same.

  19. I am white, and I grew up in a majority black neighborhood and high school (about 90-95%).  Most of the time I didn't have any issues, but sometimes I was subjected to cruel comments and assumptions.  I now attend an almost all white (and extremely rich/preppy) university, and I have found that my diverse background has greatly influenced my thoughts and ideas and made me more open to everyone and their ideas.  I can also bring a completely different perspective to classes.  In a lot of ways growing up in a culture that was different than mine (my parents are both conservative Canadians that say 'eh') was very challenging at the time, but it really helped me become a more well-rounded and socially aware person.  It is an incredible experience to live in a 'minority' neighborhood and makes you much more understanding to their plight.  FYI: Most of the neighborhoods are not like how the media portrays them, that is a stereotype like any other.

  20. I feel like if I'm the only white person in my neighborhood then I'm subjecting myself to criticism

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