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Asians tend to be smarter than other races. Are Filipinos included in this?

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Please don't preach to me about how everyone is equal, and it depends on the person. I'm referring here to the documented differences in IQ between different ethnicity. Also, let's not get into a battle of whether IQ equals intelligence.

Just as Ashkenazi Jews are said to have an average of 10 IQ points higher than your average non-Jewish white person, Asian people are said to have a higher IQ than whites as well. My question is: Are Filipinos included in that group, or is it mostly East (and not South East) Asians.

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  1. This is a misnomer.  Asians are not smarter but their culture is more assimilating letting them test well in written exams.  This is not a good measure of intelligence.

    In fact, the proper measurements show an very equal level of intelligence of people all over the world.  

    What needs to be found is what cultures allow this intelligence to be freely expressed as in the western world.


  2. yeah because their race is asian/mongoloid

  3. 1. there is no connection between race and IQ/intelligence, just as there is no connection between race and the circulatory system/breathing system/digestive system

    2. measurement of IQ-intelligence is not standardized. different countries use different tests, if any! in some countries, they test it in school as part of the education program. in my country, this does not happen. what dos this mean? that you CAN"T COMPARE results observed on different groups of people, in different contexts, using DIFFERENT MEASUREMENT INSTRUMENTS.

    as you put it, in "group x IS SAID TO", there is no basis for the affirmation, sorry, no grounds for what you are stating :|

  4. The reason east asians are intelligent as a group, is because the majority of them, like the Jews, also have a high sense of self worth.

    Most people are not born smart; how intelligent  you become is dependent largely upon

    1)  Whether or not your parents instill a sense of worth in you regarding the group of people you belong to.

    2)  How hard they make you work at all "brain" stuff

    3)  How much the people in power value their people, how well they take care of them, and throughout history, east asia has always had good schools.  Even as far back as the ancient world.

    Yes, Filipinos are included, but as a group of people they also have a strong sense of identity and national pride.

    White people, run the gamut; some are arrogantly self important, while others are right in the middle.

    Yes Filipinos are included, as many tend to hold higher level degrees, the ones that live here in the U.S.

    As a group of people Filipinos successfully fought off, for a while at least, attacks by Europeans, which led to national pride.  Also, the man who liberated the Philipines was not a half Filipino, half white man, nor was he a white man born in the Filipines but educated in Spain, but it was a home grown, full blooded Filipino.

    Hispanics generally do not have a sense of self worth because all liberators from Latin America were white.  The leaders that is.  Because Mexico is the only country, where the person who fought off Spanish oppression was an actual Mexican, and a full blooded native american Mexican at that, Mexico is the only country in Latin America with a sense of nationalistic pride.  As a result, for the ones lucky enough to go to school, many Mexicans, some native americans, will get degrees from places like Oxford and M.I.T.

    And I'm sorry but, I will preach to you how everyone is equal because everyone has the same potential, how far they get intellectually really does depend on what their parents instill in them about their group as well as how hard they are made to work in childhood to develop their brain's potential.  And as a group, east asian culture, because they have been civilized for so long, and civilization requires brains, not brawn, the culture places a higher premium on thinking ability and speed.

    Even the Philipines had a well developed culture prior to the arrival of Europeans, a culture, whose sense of worth regarding the people, was never destroyed, whereas in Latin America and Africa they were.

    Yes many are smarter, but there is a number of reasons, too many to accurately describe here and get into detail.  Do know however, that neurobiological development is at its most crucial stage during childhood, ages 0 through 10, or until puberty.  Consider how kids easily pick up languages; the reason that is, is because their brains are still growing.  How much they pick up and use, depends largely on what they are exposed to.

    And because east asian culture has a lot of, well, all kinds of children's games that help develop the brain, as well as a strong sense of self worth, pretty much a large bulk of east asians are intelligent.

    In Europe itself, believe it or not the smartest people in that continent, are Scots.  Yeah, you heard me; the people of Scotland.  The strong nationalistic pride, combined with their value of learning, makes them, statistically, the smartest people in Europe, even though they are genetically identical to most Europeans because of their Celtic ancestry so see....

    Nothing to do with genes.  Many scots have brains because of upbringing, just as much as east asians and many Jews.

    Please get over the "natural ability" idea; only a small minority of people are born freakishly smart, and they occur in all races.  That it is not publicized, and that the racist media in this country will never let anyone know it, that's another story.  Or the fact that even if whites or other groups DO encounter an intelligent black man or latina, that they will ignore the fact that they are smart just to confirm their own beliefs, that is also another story.

    Many people may be intelligent and never recognized as such simply because of the beliefs of a given society.

    For example; despite the fact that, statistically, most Israelis are in better shape than Arabs, many Arabs, who are pot-bellied, hideously ugly, out of shape and whose breath smells like sh*t, consider Jews to be "weaklings."  Even though a given Israeli soldier is probably strong enough to dismember their out of shape asses.

    Nevertheless because of a belief, nothing more, pot-bellied, grossly fat, out of shape Arabs, hold on to the belief that Jews are weak.  A belief, nothing more.

    In the same way a belief can cause irrationality in how you think about a group of people, it can cause irrationality as to how you view yourself, thus a group of people with no historical evidence of ever being intelligent can become that way, simply because of the way they view themselves.

    The scots for example, were barbarians who went into battle naked and screaming.  You wouldn't think that from visiting the Medical school at Edinburough, from what I've been told how highly refined it is.  Nevertheless that is their history, and the scots only became intelligent, from a belief in their sense of worth, not their history, because prior to them becoming civilized there was absolutely no evidence at all that naked, painted blue and screaming red haired barbarians would go on to create the best medical school in the world.  Do you see the power of belief now?

    Especially, what you believe yourself to be, because of your group.

    Asians tend to be smarter, but, that does not mean other people can't achieve the same.

    If humanity is to survive, it will have to.

    peace out.

  5. The  Philippines rank at number 52, with a national IQ of 86, according to Lynn.

    http://mathilda37.wordpress.com/

    You'll get some flak for asking this.

    Most people don't know that a racial IQ gap is well recognised by psychologists. Fifty or so of them signed a letter to that effect and sent it to the Wall street Journal. When asked as part of a study, 45% of them said the difference was probably at least partially genetic, only 15 % thought environment was the sole factor. So, that IQ varies with race, is actually the mainstream view.

    Study and letter to Wall Street Journal on link.

    http://mathilda37.wordpress.com/2008/07/...

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