how do I ask him for permission to marry his daughter? I've heard that you want to do it over drinks, but we don't drink. however... we do enjoy guns, and I'm going to shoot some clay pigeons with him tomorrow. maybe then... but only when he's empty. lol. we both enjoy karate, so I could ask him while we're sparring. Now this is actually safe since I'm taller, faster, stronger and I outrank him. lol. he's a really great guy and he's said I'm the son he never had. the biggest fight we've ever had is whether it's better to use gas or charcoal for steaks. I say charcoal. :p I'm getting the ring soon. should I show him the ring when I ask so he can see I'm serious, or should I wait until I get his blessing, and let her show off the ring? thanks!!
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