Atheists, you do know that God "repaid" Jesus for dieing for the world right?

Question

well my avatar is different, it's not portrayed as a devil. I know it's kinda Romany, but it shows power and authority. ^_^

Answer 1

yes HE WAS transformed back to immortality after that agony!!

Answer 2

Well, my belief is that I/we become that which I have the least compassion for.   If earth is uncertainty and heaven it's opposite, certainty... total boredom, I believe it is my natural tendency to become what I most abhored in my mortal life as a human in the next existence(s), fully recognizable by humans if they but use their senses to feel their way through life.

I think Jesus of the Bible had very little compassion for pharasees and rich affluents.  I suspect he became a rabbi and or a rich material non religious man in his next lives, possibly even a bug or two?  lol

I don't know how to measure the ratios, but certainly they are there somewhere.  Maybe Jesus was Saddam Hussein?  lol    Who knows? Who can prove it?

Life does not always seem FAIR!

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Forgive Affirmed Spirit is the belief in a way of life that is a method of grief resolution and functional communication processing involving active listenning, sympathy, empathy and affirmation of shock, denial, anger, guilt, depression, loneliness and hope...a kind of ego-equilibrium seeking methodology.

A Greater Works of communication and action, a way to learn to love your enemies "Advocating mortal life, Do unto others as you would have them do unto you AS IF YOU WERE THEM!"  



And nobody is perfect!  NOBODY!  We are all judgeable, hopefully in a graceful discerning way!   We are all doing our best every moment!

Humans judge everything  as we are a part of it.  Without difference, we have nothing to live for, nothing to witness.  Sin is difference, the relative seriousness with regards to law and survival of other beings, is punishable by the courts. The best way to judge is with as much graceful discernment as one can muster in a given moment!

Life is the question(uncertainty) asked by the exhaling infinitely compacted imagination invention, or no thing, which is completely certain of everything, completely omniscient or all knowing.

When I die, I believe I will be in a new state, aware of all that is and yet divided into the nature of dust that I am in, whereupon my dust shall fall.  My being will remain an infinite part of an infinite being and infinite knowledge without my material human being status of now. So there will be a change.



But my soul, my passions and discompassions, will move on to infinite places of comfort and challenge.  Able to return to this state of uncertainty and free choice illusion for another ride when it is called effectively to do so.

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Answer 3

According to Christians in a very confused manner, God and Jesus are the same thing.

Answer 4

Well here's how I see it. An imaginary friend doesn't really have too much power to "repay" or do any action, actually. So no, Jesus was probably pretty bummed out when he died and realized his imaginary friend wasn't real.

Answer 5

NO.

Answer 6

why would god sacrifice his own son when he can forgive all the humans/sinners per se. after all god is omnipotent right.?

Answer 7

Lyin of Judah:

Are you naive or just a little brain washed????  

Power to do WHAT????  Sit at the right hand of himself???  To Stop Tsunamis, to keep children from being born with brain tumors???  Or to throw people into a pit of fire for being smart enough to KNOW that he was NOT GOD, and would never BE GOD????

Do you really think that ANYTHING, AFTER THE FACT could make up for the HORROR of  (like Job) having every one of your children KILLED before your very eyes. What the h**l kind of morals do you bible thumpers practice??????

What kind of MONSTER god can sit back and let all of those HORRORS happen to Job, just to win a stupid bet with some mythical demon????

That is not a sane god, but an egotistical charlatan who, if you REALLY believe in his Omniscience KNEW what the outcome would be, and STILL allowed it all to happen!!!!!  Had I been Job, I would have exposed him as the callous monster he really was.  

Answer 8

"As in, remember the story of Job, God let all that stuff happen to Job, but when Job passed his test, God gave Job 10 times the things that he had before."

Ohh... I got it now, it is alright to make someone suffer for no reason, as long as you repay them.  WRONG.

Answer 9

Atheists only point out the cruelty of your god as a way of showing the obvious (to everyone else) inconsistencies in your myths.

Answer 10

The story of Job is disgusting and perverted.  Why didn't god just bring his old family back to life?  Does god think that people could just be 'replaced', like broken toaster ovens?

You god is not only "mean", he is a megalomaniacal tyrant that revels in the suffering of his creations.

Answer 11

Guess what?  We don't care about your superstitions.  This is like an Amazon Indian in the Brazilian rainforest telling a businessman in Brussels that the rain god Aktomuk is angry.

EDIT:  If Geezah's "Devil Duck" avatar is offensive to you, I ask you to change your avatar because it offends the Roman in me.

EDIT:  I'm definitely offended by your categorization of Romans as power-hungry and authoritarian.

Answer 12

Okay, great. Remind me to tell you one of the deals struck between Gandalf and Frodo Baggins one day. It really happened!

Answer 13

There is no god, grow up.

Answer 14

wow...   you are incredibly insightful to tell us atheist what we 'know'...

Answer 15

...which makes his "sacrifice" even more meaningless.

Answer 16

you mean jesus isn't as powerful as god before he came to earth to die? (as if it matters to us)

Answer 17

Yes that is true, but Job didn't know or understand what was happening to him while it was happening or what the end result would be.  Jesus on-the-other-hand, knew full well what was happening and what would happen to him after it was all over.  If the story were true, it would sound like an unfair advantage to me.

Answer 18

I'd leave the Book of Job out of the argument the next time if I were you...after all, what did God give to Job's children?

But to your point about Jesus - Jesus is the Human attribute of God - there was nothing about "reward" to it...His part of the Trinity was to show us what Love is all about - a willingness to sacrifice all for those He cares for most.

Answer 19

You make it sound like everything you're  saying is factual and widely known to be so. I think most atheists understand what you're trying to say but there is no proof that Jesus has power over "heaven" and Earth The proof is what atheists  have a problem with.

Answer 20

If you think Job was somehow "repayed", you obviously think one child can replace another. Parenting is not something suggest for someone with that kind of nonsense belief.

Ignoring that all of this is mythology, I have no reason to think a person that could change water into wine would have let themselves feel any pain on the cross, so what sacrifice?

Answer 21

Yes.

Job's kids didn't fare so well, though, did they?

I'm sure the fact that Job had 10 times more than he had before more than made up for the grief he suffered because his children died in a tragic accident perpetuated by God.

And for what? To prove  a point to the Devil... nice priorities, God.

Answer 22

You DO know that we don't believe in the Bible in the first place, and that your loaded questions directed at atheists are incredibly tiresome, right?

Do you do this just to hear yourself talk?

Answer 23

Um, our belief as atheists isn't that "God is mean". It's that "God doesn't exist".  

Answer 24

He may pay you back well, but he is still a s****t.

Answer 25

You are so messed up in the head!

How fair was God to Job's family?

Answer 26

But that means nothing to us, do you really not understand what an atheist is? To us, there is no such thing as god. We don't acknowledge that there is a god and choose not to worship him, we simply do NOT believe he exists, cant you understand that?

Answer 27

and you do know i don't believe in jesus right?

Answer 28

Job got pwned

Answer 29

Did you know that all the stories you just cited are fiction?  

Answer 30

job finaly did complain...go read it again

geezah keep your pic freedom of speech

lame avatar

why didnt god stop it that makes him a monster...no?