Automotive hydrogen cell boosters, for gas mileage?

Question

I have seen several videos on youtube and around the net of these people making and buying these hydrogen boosters. Magdrive is suppose to have a very effective product. Either way just wondering of the effectiveness? Has anyone tried the magdrive cell? Thanks for any help

Answer 1

You are talking about an on-board "Brown gas generator" for your gasoline engine car.  These products are great in theory but be careful about which one you buy, how you hook it up and how you use it.  Brown gas is a perfect (stoichiometric) mix of Hydrogen and Oxygen - resulting from electrolytic decomposition of water.  By feeding this into the intake manifold of your car engine, the theory is that you will improve the combustion properties of the air/fuel mixture and gain in gas mileage as a result.  Whether you actually get these results depends upon a lot of details including the size of the Brown gas generator, your engine, installation, etc.

There are also some safety concerns.  Brown gas is highly volatile.  However, it's thought to be "safe" because the combustion is, theoretically, implosive, meaning the water vapor formed by the combustion has lower volume than the H + O.  There is a lot of energy released, though, so the jury is out on the unsafe things that can happen under the hood of a car with a home-made device installed there.  BE CAREFUL.

Answer 2

Not the Magdrive but a lots of experience in systems with hydrogen as a gas . The atom is so Small it will leak through anything. It is also very explosive and I don't think Americans are ready. It is so explosive it would be like driving around with a bomb in the car ,and if u have a wreck u could destroy the whole block.

Answer 3

Not sure about this "Magdrive", if you have anything on it send it to me and i'll check it out for you. However It's probably some alteration of the Joe Cell. The Joe Cell is pretty much the original hydrogen gen (minus military models).

On demand h2 gens are a bit different from the Hollywood versions like seen Chain Reaction with keanu Reeves, that tend to explode violently every time a film is being made. However when used in an on-demand system there is no storage of hydrogen and oxygen in it's gas form, only liquid (water) and is only transformed into gas "on-demand" in small cylinder size amounts. It's actually safer then gasoline as it doesn't evaporate, creating explosive fumes in the tank like gas.

I currently run 2 trucks, my home hot water heater, home stove and home generator on hydrogen. There are basically 3 safe ways to make and use it... chemically, electrically and molecularly, the first 2 being easier so I'll only discuss them here.

Chemically you'll need a 6inch x 1ft schedule 40 pvc pipe. With pvc cement glue a cap on the bottom and use a s***w on cap for the top. Drill a small hole (1/4inch or so) in the side close to the top, s******g in a small copper shut off valve. Place a few feet of stranded (food grade is good) flex hose to the valve and into the air intake of your engine (carburetor or fuel injections). Now crunch up a couple aluminum cans (beer cans, soda cans etc) and drop them into the pvc pipe, along with a couple cups of lye (Red Devil drain opener has lye in it, some Clorox and Drano's do to). Then simply add water, s***w on the top and wait a few minutes.

What happens in simplicity is that aluminum and lye don't really get along so they battle, and as always the innocent civilians (water H2O) that the most casualties, by giving up it's hydrogen and oxygen. This then builds up in the void of the pipe and is ready to be vented into your engine, by opening the valve. You may need to start your engine on gas then switch it off after the hydrogen starts burning.

Electrical is a bit easier. Simply take a small solar panel 1.5 amps is what i use ($9 at harborfreight.com, connect the 2 wires to 2 conductors (carbon cores of batteries work well, just be careful removing it from the jacket), but any conductive material will work. Drop the wires into a water tank (I use 55gal drums), rig up a valve as described above and your good to go. That's it.

Tiny bubbles will form and rise off one conductor (that's hydrogen) and even smaller bubbles that just looks like foam will rise off the other (oxygen). I don't remember which likes the positive and which likes the neg hydrogen or the oxygen.

The third method is more complicated and is what i use for my vehicles. It's just a modified Joe's CelI, there's a step by step DIY guide available to walk you threw the process, just google "agua-luna hydrogen generator". It also covers the other 2 methods described in more detail.

Hope this helped, feel free to contact me personally if you have any questions,

Dan Martin

Retired Boeing Engineer now living 100% Off-the-Grid with my family, using Alternative Energy & loving every minute.

for more info visit agua-luna com

Answer 4

It's a scam, just another silly perpetual motion device.  I hope you didn't spend any money on it.