Based Upon Obama's Voting Record, Does Palin Still Have Time to Do Something About that Downs Syndrome Birth?

Question

Julie,

This is about Obama's way of thinking. Nicely, he won't force Palin to abort that live baby.

Answer 1

These are the points that will win her the position.  Although these are of course important facts.  I'm like yeah, bis, boom, ba.  It's just a show. The way she was waving on the news was like a pageant queen.  Is this really happening?

Answer 2

No. The time to do something has long passed. I guess she should have realized that after a woman turns 40 the chances of having a downs baby more than double.

Answer 3

ABSOLUTELY......UNDER OBAMA'S PROPOSED RULE ABORTION IS ALLOWED UP TO 24 MONTHS.

Answer 4

Leave it up to the liberals to kill children, yet pardon murderers from death row.  

Answer 5

Could you spell out a little how you've come to ascribe such thinking to Obama?  There's seems to be much smearing of Obama as being for killing of babies after they're born, but weak reasoning to back up the accusation.

Considering additionally that such protection is already granted by federal law, which Obama pointed out when he explained his votes, your conclusion seems even more tenuous.

In fact, the need to protect babies after they're born with legislation seems phony.  (see more below)  Are you sure this whole thing isn't a right-wing gullibility test for the rest of us?

As Obama said at Saddleback Church (transcript here:http://www.rickwarrennews.com/transcript... ) his being pro-choice doesn't mean he's pro-abortion.  Obama wants to reduce the abortion rate, just like the rest of us.  He's just unwilling to take his anti-abortion stance so far as to make illegal a woman's choice in the matter, including in cases of rape, incest, or even the endangerment of the life of the mother.

This doesn't really seem to jive with your claim at all, making your claim a bit extraordinary.  Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and you're not providing any evidence at all.

As for the actual need of such legislation (setting aside for a moment  that the baby-protection part was already redundant) the perception of a need was triggered by a nurse called Jill Stanek, who claimed that fetuses that were born alive at Christ Hospital in Oak Lawn, Illinois, were abandoned without treatment, including in a soiled utility room.  The Illinois Atty. General's office, then under abortion foe Jim Ryan, directed the Illinois Dept. of Public Health to conduct a thorough investigation of the claims, because what she was alleging were violations of existing law, supporting Obama's position that Illinois law already prohibited the conduct.  Illegalities aside, Ryan was naturally quite concerned that such heinous activity could be going on in a hospital, as any sentient human being would.  But as one might expect, the story that was so heinous that it couldn't be true, in fact was not true.  The investigation concluded, "The allegation that infants were allowed to expire in a utility room could not be substantiated (and) all staff interviewed denied that any infant was ever left alone."  Shafer was quick to add that neither he nor the IDPH report concluded that her testimony was untruthful or exaggerated to help advance her anti-abortion views -- simply that their investigation did not substantiate the allegations.  Nevertheless, not too credible, huh?

Jill Staneck also says domestic violence is acceptable against women who have abortions.  She also supports billboards in Tanzania that say "Faithful Condom Users" in English and Swahili, written next to a large skeleton, to discourage condom use.  She claims that "aborted fetuses are much sought after delicacies" in China, to which she added, "I think this stuff is happening."

So why was the legislation put forth in the first place, given that the baby-protection part was redundant?  The act was designed as "wedge" legislation.  It was designed for just for the sort of attack that you are making.  When a bill-authoring group does this, they put in one horrible provision (the "infanticide" part of the bill) and package it with a bunch of other provisions that assault a woman's right to choose. Then, when someone votes against the bill to protect that right, they say the vote was over the "infanticide."

Articles that spin such legislation as infanticide are little more than gullibility tests, and I'm afraid you failed the test.  Didn't this story seem a little implausible to you at the start?

Furthermore, this story has been debunked dozens of times in Yahoo Answers, so  you really don't have an excuse for posting this nonsense.

If you want to attack Obama for not making abortions illegal, then OK, fine.  If you want to scold him for not doing enough to reduce the impulsiveness that leads to so many abortions and an STD rate among teens of 25%, then OK, fine.  But passing on stuff that's just made up is a bit much.  Trying to keep others from breaking Commandment 6 doesn't give you permission to break Commandment 9.

Answer 6

Obama would be the one sharpening the sword

Answer 7

You Guys Sound Like Nut JOBS.  Keep posting scaring away Clinton supporters.Its One Thing to be pro life but  to make idiotic Crazy Statements like this will not win you the white house Just Flat Out Nuts "Obama kills Babies" Omg DO ALL REPUBLICANS THINK LIKE THIS ? Youre A STEP AWAY FROM THE COOK COOKS NEST

Answer 8

That is a terrible thing to say. The Palins love that little baby. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Answer 9

Like she wants to get rid of her political meal-ticket! Although she handed him off to a nanny after only three days.

I wonder who "Trig" will be calling Mommy?

Answer 10

Wolfs_bone said it best... The rest of you should be ashamed.

Answer 11

The Messiah would want to abandon the child on a mountainside. Just like in the Old Testament.

Answer 12

my wife and I have 4 children and I swear at every pregnancy we were told about the prenatal test to check for Down Syndrome and each time we looked at the doctor and said " It doesn't matter, we're having a baby, no matter what." and he is like of course of course.  All life is a gift. every day is a gift. you are not guaranteed your next breath.  I'm sure that baby is the most special and loved in that family and he has all those big sisters and brother to watch out for him.  

Answer 13

I bet Palin makes more hay about her child being an abortion issue in deciding to keep the child than she does about having a child with a disability.  She'll want everyone to have the children yet when it comes time for the government to pony up some funding to help people with family members with disabilities, watch how the Republicans scatter like roaches in the daylight...