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Batman Begins and The Dark Knight question?

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In the film, The Dark Knight, Batman rescues and saves The Joker from falling to his death. But in Batman Begins (prequel to TDK), Batman leaves Ra's al Ghul on the train to crash and burn, followed by the lines "I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you." but doesn't it still make him responsible for his death? Did Batman break his ONE rule? Explain.

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  1. They did that because Ra's will come back in a later movie, hopefully. He does in the comics. You think he's dead but he comes back.

    But yeah, that is weird they'd do that isn't it?


  2. He saves The Joker Because he throws him down, if Joker dies it means he killed him

    Just like if you push or throw somebody down from a high building which means you are a killer...

    But for Ra's al ghul, he fights with him but he didn't do anything to kill him but let nature takes its course by not saving him but let him fends for himself...

    Which means he didn't have to kill him in order for him to die but it's natural for people to die in such way if he can't save himself...

    His rules is "no killing" which means, he must not have anything to do which leads to someones death by his own touch or action...

    You can't combine a person and nature together... for a another person's death...

    So there's a reason for him to save Joker because he throws him down the building which also proves to Joker that he's not corrupted and still haven't yet broken one of his rule

    But there's no reason for him to save Ra's because he didn't do anything which could kill him but leaving Ra's to fend for himself...

    And as for Ra's he's has access to various ‘Lazarus Pits’ in which he bathes to rejuvenate himself. By periodically bathing in these, he has lived for hundreds of years on end while keeping in physical prime, He's immortal by age but that doesn't mean he can't die. In the comics, there's a part where he'll die when he's stab by his daughter, Nyssa through her father's heart and will be resurrected one day in future... As told in Birth of the Demon, Ra's al Ghul is born over six hundred years before his first appearance in Batman comics

    But in the movies will be a different story...

    I agree with you and i don't think Christopher Nolan will bring Ra's back in the upcoming movies as it'll be complicating by his realistic approach...

    Batman still lives his rule...

  3. no, he just didn't save the guy from the train cause the guy double crossed him

  4. Letting die or not saving the villian is not a rule for Batman.  

    Not using fire arms & killing the villian are the rules.

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