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Best Boxer?

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Who is the best boxer in the world?

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  1. Alive right now?

    Probably Floyd Mayweather.  Dude...... beating someone like Hopkins, who got much of his boxing practice in prison against hardened criminals, is no mean feat.  That Mayweather dude is someone to fear in the ring, and had he been born in the golden age, he may have even beaten the likes of Robinson.

    The best ever produced by the United States?  Probably Sugar Ray Robinson.

    As far as heavyweights?  Probably Gene Tunney, and I will likely get flack for this, but please, let me justify myself.  Gene Tuney could not take a punch worth sh*t.  Being a Boston Brahmin, and extremely lazy with his impact conditioning, he had more glass in his jaw than saudi arabia after a nuclear attack.  No joke man, most people in this forum could probably take a blow to the jaw better than him.  Tunney became champ, because he was easily the most technically perfect heavyweight fighter in all of American history.  I have never seen boxing form as well polished and highly refined as his.  He was a very "by the book" boxer.  Now, if he had encountered Joe Louis, Louis would have won, despite Tunney being more skilled.  When there is a difference of power, if you've got skills, you don't need to be powerful, just powerful enough.  When there is a difference in skill, you don't need as much skill as the other guy, just skill enough, if you have power.  Louis had both power and speed over Tunney, and just enough skill to beat him.

    However, Tunney's overintelectualizing of the sport, and his overly scientific approach, how he emphasized analyzing opponents, and hard logic, over actually pushing the body's limits to the point where it became instinct, ultimately put him below Robinson as far as skill was concerned.

    As to the greatest boxer of all time, as far as the sport of western boxing, that honor would have to go to an Athenian forgotten by history.  In ancient Greece, people used to fight with leather gloves studed with iron tongs on the knuckles, and the fights lasted to the death, or when one fighter was completely unconscious.  It was such a brutal spectacle even the Romans did not have the stomach for it, so they banned it.

    The story goes there was an athenian so skilled he "kept his handsome looks" throughout his boxing career from age 14 to about 35.  He was at the peak of his glory days when he killed a gigantic Persian with a single, fatal blow.

    Hypothetically speaking, boxing can be taken to a level so high, the fighter NEVER gets hit cleanly.  All punches are weaved, dodged, slipped or rolled, almost as if the fighter has precognition, and, with only a small handful of blows from said fighter, the fight is over.  If you are into boxing, odds are you are into fighting video games so I'm sure you've heard of the character Steve Fox from tekken.

    Remember the cut scenes from the opening of Tekken 4?  How perfectly and cleanly he dodged all those blows, and with only a small handful he shut down his opponent?

    According to ancient Greek sports reccords, there was an Athenian, who really could fight like that.

    To answer your question, if the story is true, and since all legends have a basis in fact, the title of "greatest boxer" ever, if he really did box like Steve Fox, would have to go to that Athenian.

    Of course, in a brutal sport where a single blow could kill you, I imagine ancient greek boxers took the art of evasiveness a LITTLE bit more seriously than modern boxers.  Just  a little.

    Also, I think it was precisely the brutality of tonged, or bare knuckle fighting, which led to the development of boxing's evasive game.  When fighting a bare knuckle, or iron studded gloves fight, the only way to survive is to simply not get hit, because even if you parry, imagine one of those iron tonged gloves hitting  your forearms.

    Pardon the sarcasm and cynicism but, I'm sure you understand my point.

    hope that helped.


  2. Right Now- Miguel Cotto...couple of years back Bernard Hopkins.

    All time- Muhhamed Ali or the KO King Tyson.

    Read on to find out why..

    Okay so first off Forget Floyd may weather...he is soft, he got murdereedby Oscar De La Hoya and they declared him the winner, nah it was set up. the judges said they made a mistake, HE GOT MURDERED FOR 11 STRAIGHT ROUNDS.

    Enough about Oscar cuz he got messed up by TiTo .. yeah Felix... Felix is underrated..he is friggin great..but Bernard he beat him... So this leaves me with two good boxers right now...Bernard Hopkins vs Miguel Cotto, idk man...according to the stats... Miguel with 32 wins 26 KO and 0 losses..while Bernard with 45 wins 32 KO 5 losses and 1 draw...idk the stats are difficult...but Bernard is retiring so lets go with Miguel who is in his prime time..as of all time..its ovious its Muhhamed Ali or The KO King Mike Tysonn...

  3. Muhammed Ali

  4. Miguel Cotto definitely right now

    All time would be Mohammed Ali

  5. Now= Cotto/ or The Pac man

    Past= Ali/Tyson

  6. ~That Pac Man is really good. I say he is the best.

  7. Manny Pacquiao

  8. manny pacquiao & juan marquez

  9. best all around boxer right now is cotto of all time i would have to say rocky marciano

  10. you should be more specific. In the world now? Or of all time? Right now I'd have to say Roy Jones, Jr.! Yeah, yeah, he came out of retirement a few times but name me ONE fighter who could KO him at this point? As for All Time I'm still sticking with Joe Louis!
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