Big Brown on Steroids!?

Question

So everyone's accusing Larry Jones of giving Eight Belles steroids. I found that to be absurd. Larry Jones is one of the great guys in horse racing. He really cares about his horses. He'd never give her anything to force her to run through pain.

Then today I find out that Rick Dutrow is giving steroids to Big Brown!

I was so peeved! Everyone's idolizing that Dutrow guy and wagging their fingers at Larry Jones and it should be the other way around.

Honestly, right after Big Brown won the Derby, my initial reaction was that with Dutrow being so confident, I thought he must have cheated somehow... no one comes into the biggest race in the country acting like he did. I thought he must have known something that we didn't. And he did!

Answer 1

I wouldn't believe everything those idiots at ESPN....wait, they didn't say?  It just rolled across the bottom.  Oh boy...

Answer 2

1 - 'Tis legal.

2 - Steroids are not always directed at improving a horse's race.

3 - Betcha he has some competitors that use the same exact thing, seeing how legal it is and all.

4 - It's not cheating if everyone's allowed to do it and it really doesn't help that much anyway.

5 - No way Pyro on ILLEGAL steroids could beat a horse like Curlin/Invasor/Ghostzapper, etc (to name but a few, recent examples). The best of the best are still, humorously enough, the best of the best.

I think Dutrow is an idiot, but not because of the steroids thing. Also, don't hate the horse because you hate the trainer - then you're not even giving the horse a chance to "redeem" itself.

Answer 3

I totally agree with you. that guy is acting like a douchebag. I really do not want this horse to win the triple crown and it is only because of that jackass.

Answer 4

I gotta respectfully disagree here.

Your blaming the wrong guy.

Don't blame the trainer..  Blame the State.

You're using the same steroid mentality for horse racing that's geared up toward the steroid abuse that we find in basball and football...

and it's not the same thing.

It's a differnet industry. It's unnaceptable to use steroids in the MLB and NFL because they are against the rules and against the law.

Plus you have college kids and teenagers wanting to use them trading 20-50 years of thier life to score a touchdown or hit a homerun. I knew of 4 different kids in my highschool who used steroids and none of them made it to the NFL.

Now I'm not saying it's acceptable in horse racing to use this stuff. I'm saying it's different and if you're blaming Dutrow your blaming the wrong guy.

So Larry Jones is not a cheater OK and he's never taken adavantage of a practice that might be immoral to other people??? Before you put a Halo on his head. Use some logic first. How do you stay competitve in such a highly competetive sport that's laid back on rules like steroid use?

Do you do it with morals?

You know ...make your horses say thier prayers, train hard, take those vitamins. Put a bumper sticker on your trialer that reads "Jesus is my Jockey"

That will help your horse win, right?  I don't think that kind of mentality will help you in a cut throat sport.

You got to get this good trainer bad trainer scenario out of your system.

Lets talk about recent Tripple Crown attempts for a bit.

Now I'm not saying Bob Baffert injects his horses with steroids but I would really like to hear the explanation behind Real quiet. He was nicknamed by his barn "The fish" (because he was so thin) Well, he filled out quite nicely before the derby. Silver Charm was always big and filled out too... What about the way War Emblem looked at the Illinoise derby (he was smaller when he was owned and trained by someone else). Just compare that  Illinoise Derby War Emblem to the Kentucky Derby War Emblem... he looked different after Baffert had him for bit.

I'm not saying trainer Bill Spawrl used steroids... but I would like to know why he had such a high win percentage for claimers that ran for him the first time off the claim... It was 25%-35% some years... Wow! He must be a great trainer to turn a horse around in 14 - 28 days.

So don't drag Dutrow down for using this stuff. Over half of the horses racing today are on it and all of these State Racing Commisions know it too!!!

It's the State and Track Owners who are the real culprit.

The one thing that is ruining horse racing is the nonstop racing dates. Horses and trainer's don't get vacations.

There is no offseason. There is no break. There is no recovery time and that's why there is "NO STEROID TESTING" for thoroughbreds. They use them to keep them in training so they can keep them running.

The tracks and the state racing commisions turn and look the other way because it's the only way a stable can keep up with the number of starts a track demands...

Now you could be an honest trainer and do the right thing and not take adavantage of steroids but if you can't priovide the horses to fill those races. Then the track owner will call you into the front office and tell you to take your horses, your hay & your saddles and get the h**l out... and he'll give your stable to someone who will fill those races.

...and that's the difference when talking about steroids in horse racing.

Answer 5

Dutrow said he gives all his horses Winstrol on the 15th of each month.  

Winstrol is a powerful steroid that's currently legal in 28 states, including the sites of the three Triple Crown races, Kentucky, Maryland and New York.

Click the link in my source list to read the whole story.

Answer 6

If this colt's trainer used steroids on him in Kentucky, he won't be able to do the same thing at Pimlico tomorrow- because Pimlico is in Maryland, which prohibits the use of such drugs.

Answer 7

No I heard he's on HGH