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Breeding question?

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Hi, I will be breeding my mare, and some guy named buffy gave it to me straight on how to say this right.

I have had experience having foals and intend to have a professional person start this one.

Ok now thats out of the way. I was planning on breeding my mare to a dark horse, one of my neighbors.

Conditinoins man must have.

Dark colored

well tempered

listens

and is nice.

But if i could i would love to get s***n shipped out to get an appaloosa.

Whats a good website that has that. And how much does that cost? Not the s***n its self since that depends on the horse but, shipping and handling, and vet doing it.

oh and you wont change my mind at this no matter what you say, so if you are just going to say dont breed, its pointless. so just answer my question please.

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  1. You have to breed the green and blue horses to get the black horse, then you breed the black horse with a red and theres a 50% chance of getting the golden horse, which you can trade for the ultimate weaopon


  2. Wait, you are wanting to breed a mare which if I recall you said was like 17 last year, so she is what 18 or commin 18?  Also, if I recall you also said last year that she was a maiden?

    Either that horse's picture is the Appaloosa poster horse or you have like 5 or 6 accounts under different names, because that horse looks REALLY REALLY familiar.

  3. ...Are those the studs, or is one your mare?

    EDIT:  Durr sorry, I see that that is the same horse (your mare, I assume).  Dubie has it right, in my area you're looking at about $700 just for the AI itself (s***n not included).  Add in all the rest of what you'll need....it's an expensive endeavour.  Much more expensive than buying a young'un.  Add up all the costs of breeding your own foal, and then take a look at foals that are for sale in that price range.  I have a feeling you'll really like what you can find for that amount of money.

  4. When I looked in to it for a lady it was about $175 for the vet to come out, collect from our stud and prepare to ship.  Then Fed ex over night was about $60.  But it was only like 500 miles. Then of course you have the stud fee on top of it.

    Alot of breeders that do AI already have s***n to ship so they have their own charges.

    Good Luck!

  5. What type of foal are you breeding for?  What will be it's use?

    What is it's purpose and what traits do you want the foal to have?  Find a stallion that is strong in areas that your mare is weak, either with temperament or conformation.  Be sure and look at his foals and see what he produces.  Any breeder with a quality stallion can tell you if they ship cooled s***n and your vet can tell you how much it costs to have your mare inseminated.

  6. Sorry, but there is no website that specializes in "s***n for sale".  

    You would have to take the time to look and find a horse that meets your requirements, "dark colored, well tempered, listens, and is nice"  then you could check conformation and performance history.  You might try a site that specializes in the breed your looking to breed too.  Or perhaps you have seen a stallion that along with your mare would produce a future prospect for you.  

    I hope that this guy that you so casually know buffy..is he planning to help you with the AI?  It is a shame that you needed him to tell you how to format a statement that you have experience having foals..and it is good that you are going to have a professional start this one, but you will need professional help before this one is born.

    So, good luck, I wouldn't try to change your mind and then be accused of being "mean" because you seem to have it all together minus the facts that you have to come here and ask how much shipping, handling and vet costs are...so, good luck and keep us posted.  I hope you get what you want.

  7. OK- horsejumper - MUCH better.  Pay attention though - the HORSE must have the dark color and well temperament, not the man (I hope......)

    1.  Really look at your mare - honestly and determine her faults.  Then look for a stallion that displays points that would possibly correct these faults - for example, if a mare has small eyes or a big head, don't go with a stud with small eyes and a big head - find one that's more appealing.  If your mare is high strung, find a more docile stallion - if she's too laid back, find one with more fire.

    2.  Color should be secondary to about anything else - always breed with a purpose in mind - what will the horse be used for?  Even if you never intend to sell the foal, breed for value rather than heart - you never know when you might be forced to sell the foal and it's best to give it the best start you can - a grade foal costs just as much to get on the ground as a well registered one.

    3.  Review breeding contracts - any stallion you breed to, whether it's your neighbors or a stallion far away that you will AI with shipped s***n should be accompanied by a contract outlining what you will pay for everything and what you'll get - a live foal guarantee, etc.

    4.  IF you find and Appy stud to breed to and will do AI with shipped s***n, there will be collection charges, shipping charges, all sorts of additional charges.  Ensure you have a list of all applicable charges and go over them with the prospective stallion owner to ensure you both have the same expectations.  These charges can vary greatly from stud to stud - I paid some pretty high collection fees for the last stud, too high I feel at $200.  A $500 stud feed ended up costing me over $900 due to the additional collection charges and all that - and my mare was on premises for breeding.  Ensure you know all charges to expect before signing a contract or breeding.

    5. Ask for pictures of other foals that stallion has had and performance stats - how many ROMs have his get achieved, how many races has it won, whatever you're breeding for, ask for "proof" the stallion can produce it - you are only interested in disposition perhaps - ask for proof that the stallion has thrown foals with sound dispositions.

    I can't stress enough to have a plan - what will you use the horse for?  I know WAY too many people who've bred to the horse down the street because they could do it for $100 and sell the foal for thousands - or so they thought.  Most of them still have these horses and the horses do nothing.  Some of them have been abused and I know of one that was sent to the meat market before it was old enough to break because of poor breeding selection, no plan and no realistic knowledge of the horse market.  A different of $400 in stud fee COULD mean a difference of thousands in selling price depending upon at which point you sell that foal.  Additionally, if you intend to keep the horse, breed to the close stallion because he's cheap then learn the stallion and mares genes produce a wacko horse (it's happened) how valuable is your $100 investment (which is actually closer to $500 - $1000 after vet costs and mare care for the 11 months it takes for the foal to grow and be born).

    Don't get me wrong, horse-jumper, I'm not AGAINST breeding horses.  What I am against is IGNORANT breeding of LOW QUALITY horses - because these end up bad off.  Heck, they're talking about killing off (through euthanization) hundreds of horses owned by the BLM because people can't or won't adopt them.  It takes no less knowledge to start a wild horse than it does to raise and start a bred foal - in fact, probably less to start the wild horse because you don't have 3 years to teach it bad habits.  It's already got "horsenality" from growing up naturally - if you know what you're doing, they're not that hard to make sound, great partners out of.

    All I ask is that people go about it knowedgeably, not because they think it's cheaper to breed thier own, a way to make money or somehow more sure of being a good horse.

    BTW - I'm a 41 year old, woman, not a guy.

    Good luck!  maybe someday you'll send me pictures of you riding this wonderful foal you've raised?

  8. You could easily have upward of 5-600 dollars in shipping and AI costs, as well as rhino vacs, then the new foal care and IgG.  With stud fees, vet costs, additional nutrition for the pregnant mare and new foal care, it will cost you from $1200 PLUS stud fees to produce a foal that will be worth what, about $150 bucks in today's market, and I'm being generous.

    You have a cute, cute mare, if those pics are hers.  There's no guarantee you'll get color if you breed to an app...but for less than half of what it would cost to breed one right, you can pick out a loud spotty of your choice and have EXACTLY what you dream of.

    Do what you will, you will anyway, but at least do it right from a medical, if not ethical, point of view.
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