Breeding stock paint?

Question

The American Paint Horse Association (APHA) will register these horses, but they will not allow them to compete with color horses at breed shows, offering a few token "breeding stock" classes at local club shows. These classes are not offered at the world level. The American Quarter Horse Association (AQHA), though the horses are out of the same bloodlines, have the same conformation and meet AQHA's color standards, will not register them because one or both parents were Paints. Other than open shows, these horses have nowhere to really show, and the prestige and honor that accompanies a world title has been denied them

Would you conister a paint of no color and down fall? or do you believe it doesnt make a difference?

My opinion is that for pleasure riding it doesnt, but for showing it does. i've always hear that color can be a major asset to placing in classes.

and horseofcourse17 this has nothing to do with what you said to me earlier. im just wonderiing what other people think

Answer 1

I've owned both breeding stock and regular registry Paints, and I can sympathize with your woes!

My local club offers many different Solid Paint Bred classes, (SPB) but no one comes to enter them.  If there is less than 3 in each class then you've spent all that money and don't have a chance to earn points, so why waste your money?  So it becomes a vicous circle, no one wants to waste their money so no one enters and around it goes.  The classes are somewhat larger in halter and often earn points, likewise Western pleasure SPB here often is a point class.  I think they will slowly increase as the club offers saddles and such as prizes to the top SPB competitor as an incentive.  The problem isn't all the club or APHA's fault, it takes breeders and owners to enter to change things.

And by the way, both the Worlds and Reicher now offer SPB classes.

If I was raising a foal you can bet I'd hope it had color.  Solid colored horses, especially stud colts, have less than 1/3 the value of an equally well bred colored foal.  I also would not rush out and buy another SPB unless I was doing it for resale because I like to show with the group and earn points.  On the positive side, there is a huge potential to make a profit with a good quality SPB.  My daughter bought a top bred and well handled two year old for $1100 a few years ago, she rode it in 4-H, and showed both Open and Paint for a year.  When she sold the horse she got $6500 for him, not bad for a teenage girl's time.  He was a talented horse that moved well and had a good mind, as a Quarter horse he would have been worth much more as a 2 year old, but as a Paint the show people didn't want him.  If I was a kid trying to earn money he's exactly the type of horse I'd buy, and then resell to someone who didn't want to show APHA.

Answer 2

If the horse is only registerable as a paint due to blood lines and is a breeding stock, the yes I'd consider that a down fall for SHOWING purposes ONLY. The way the APHA does their classes, they rate Breeding stock basically second best. Unlike the ApHC. The APHA has seperate classes for breeding stock while the ApHC ( appaloosa) makes the owner buy a "performance permit" for non patterned horses and then that horse is eligible to show against the patterned horses equally.

In the ApHC a non characteristic ( non patterned horse) has an equal chance to win a championship as a patterned horse.

In the APHA the breeding stock don't get the same opportunities.

Answer 3

i would find it a downfall for showing but not for pleasure as you said. yes color can be an asset at shows i go to there may be two spotted saddle horses that move exactly alike but the prettiest of the two will win. but i wouldn't think that breeding stock paints were meant for show, i would think they were meant for pleasure & and breeding(of course) to produce more APHA's

Answer 4

Attention paintgirl.........I might be totally wrong but I thought that AQHA was offering a way for stock paints that had AQHA or appendix breeding to be able to earn AQHA papers???It was either after a certain amount of points or time. I thought I read something about this. Also the double registry of AQHA and APHA. Do you know anything or could you clarify this for me.

Then you would be able to show AQHA

Answer 5

I think even for competitions that having a breeding stock paint isn't any better or worse than having the world's most perfectly colored paint unless you're trying to show in the breed classes.

If you're trying to show in breed class, the obviously a breeding stock is not what you want. Guess you'll have to use talent and aptitude to earn ribbons.

I found "prestige and honor that accompanies a world title has been denied them" to be slightly overdramatic.