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Calling all smart christians, answer me this?

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Why is there any burden of proof on any atheist? (so long as that atheist is not claiming to KNOW that there is no God. The argumentum ad ignorantiam fallacy is not being committed if one simply cites a lack of evidence as justification for the rationality of believing that God does not exist)

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- Do you agree that atheism is inherently more rational than theism? If not, why not? And if so, then why do you consider yourself a theist?

I find it a little ridiculous to request proof of God's NON-existence; what evidence would you expect to find for the non-existence of anything? If it DOESN'T exist, then surely the only possible evidence that COULD exist for this is:

a) Purely rationalistic (i.e. to demonstrate that it's existence is a logical impossibility - which, in many cases, may well be impossible in itself. This doesn't mean that they exist though......)

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  1. Very good question. Very logical. Which is why they wont get it.  


  2. A lot of atheists DO claim they know that "there is no God". Even go as far as calling people delusional (or any other names) for believing.


  3. "so long as that atheist is not claiming to KNOW that there is no God"

    The problem is....many DO actually claim that.

    And, I applaud you for not using the phrase "You cannot prove a negative."

    "- Do you agree that atheism is inherently more rational than theism? If not, why not? And if so, then why do you consider yourself a theist?"

    No, an atheists way of thinking is no more rational than a theists way of thinking. The atheist goes by what he/she can observe (notice, this means more than see). The theist goes more by what he/she feels is right. Both have flaws (though the theist's view may have the more obvious one).

  4. Some atheists do infact claim they KNOW there is no God. I see no rationality in dismissing a possibility based upon lack of evidence due to insufficient searching. Proof of God isn't something one finds under a microscope.

    If you want to think there is no God, that's up to you. I've searched and found there is indeed a God.

    God will not furnish you with physical proof of His existance. Search spiritually, and you will indeed find.

  5. They do claim to know that, though. Also, it is usually the atheists who first open the subject by claiming to have proven a negative in the first place. Finally, they seem to think that the burden of proof is on us to show that God definitely does exist.  

  6. We've repeatedly said that you can't prove the existence of God to someone, it's something as person has to find for himself.

    Those that state as an absolute that there is no God as opposed to saying "I don't believe there is a God" are just as wrong as they say we Christians are, making them hypocrites.

  7. You don't have to work so hard. God exists and the proof is Jesus. Though he is the one who stands in between the history of human beings, you reject him. Then, what kind of proof shall you accept? My personal experiences with God will be having no price at all! We firmly know that God exists; not only exists, but is very much nearer to us whenever we need him. You can not understand it, since it needs a pure life to see God. Without a humble and pure mind, none can come to God. God attracts only those whom he loves; you are not one among them. Let us face the reality of death and thereafter, let us see what is in store for everyone. It is easy to reject anything; but not that easy to accept and find. It is like rejecting education; you can deny it easily, but getting a degree needs efforts. Much more effort is required to experience God. But, there is no compulsion.

  8. God's existence is neither rational nor logical.  It was not meant to be explainable in man's reasoning.  If the things of God could be pigeon-holed into man's logic, they would cease to be divine.  Man's mind cannot fully grasp God's mind.  Belief comes by faith alone.  Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God.

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  9. Its only a burden if you accept it as burden.

  10. The question: Do you agree that atheism is inherently more rational than theism? If not, why not? And if so, then why do you consider yourself a theist?

    The answer: No. Atheism has nothing to reason out. It has nothing to prove. Theism is rational. It has something to prove. I consider myself a theist. But I don't have to prove the existence of God. He exist even without rational proof.

  11. Seeing as how God is Love

    Anyone demanding proof either way is addressing the problem of love.

    You can prove God when someone feels they are loved

    you can deny God when someone feels a lack of it.

    True Parents.

  12. We can find proof that the Bible is wrong regarding the age of the Earth,  species just popping out into existence, humans not being created instantly from clay, the great flood, etc.  This should be considered evidence that the Bible is wrong or not even a reliable source, thus the definition of their God comes from a flawed source..

    We work with what they have, they have a defined God, so it is possible to show evidence that completely disagrees with what the Bible states to be true.

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