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Can Christians and Jews be classified as Muslim ?

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They also submit to God as well

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  1. Nope. You are only classed as a muslim if you make a declaration of faith that is "I bare witness that there is no God but God and that Muhammad (pbuh) is the final messenger of God"

    I think you will be hard pushed to find a christian or jew to state that.

    They are muslims as they where all true in worship at the time they where alive as where all jews before christianity and all christians before Islam.

    Your wrong it does include those before Muhammad (pbuh) existed. You dont know much do you? Poor you.

    EDIT

    LOL again thanks for the laugh. You seem not to be grasping this simple concept. From Adam on all prophet and all believer in those prophets whether Jewish or Christian before Islam was revealed are classed by GOD as Muslims. They where not muslims when alive because Islam had not been revealed yet. If when alive they followed correctly Gods revelations and died they where true believers. Same for Chrisianity. So on judgement day they will be classed by God as Muslims got it? Because they followed Gods revelations while alive. Those alive now who do not follow Gods final revelations even if Jewish and Christian are not considered Muslims as they reject Muhammad as Gods final prophet. I know its seems complicated for your wee brain to comprehend but its quite simple really.

    I dont have a chip on my shoulder but it sure sounds like you do. My mother is a christian my father a protestant my sister in law a catholic and my brother an athiest. And have nothing but love and respect for ever single one of them. If you are suggesting I am against other faith your wrong. I was brought up to respect others no matter the faith, colour, nationality, wealth, status nor ability. But keep repeating it if it makes you feel better. I know who i am and you and your opinons dont define me.


  2. There are many common aspects between these religions, but jews and christians aren't muslim.. because muslims believe in one Allah(God), and other such things.

    Also if only submitting to God made us muslims, jew or christians, then we would all be from the same religion.

    Also maybe in ur opinion u don't believe that Moses.Jesus, Adam, and other prophets (Peace Be Upon Them), are muslims or prophets, but muslims believe that they are.


  3. Muslim in the Literal sense e.g. Submitter to God : "YES" , with the EXCEPTION of the Christians who believe in Trinity.

    Muslim in the religious sense e.g. following the Quran: "No".

    Muslim in the sense of the Hypocritic Organized religion (present day Islam):  Most certainly NOT.

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    However, my question to the you ( the asker) (if you are a Christian or Jewish) is :

    Q1:  Both the Christian and Jews, being the people of the book have a responsibility to believe in ANY new Messengers and scriptures!

    True Or False ?

    If your answer to the above question is "False", then my friend you are in the wrong place and you should study your book more carefully.

    Q2:  If you are in doubt of Quran as divine, then I can understand your biasness towards sticking to your old philosophy e.g. Christianity OR Judaism.

    However, if you are RELUCTANT to even Test the Quran as a divine scripture or are SCARED to accept it as from God. Then I guess you should ask the question to yourself, who is more worthy to be scared of e.g. your ego or God. For certain you are to be answerable to God on the day of Judgement. There you will not have the excuse to say "We did not study the Quran". OR "We were scared that it was from God".

    In that case "MOST" Certainly you will NOT be a submitter (Muslim, in the literal sense).

    This excuse can be valid ONLY for those who either:

    1-  Did not get the opportunity to study the Quran.

    2-  They were not convinced by the evidence of the time (era). Note: The Quran's evidence will keep coming in each time / era. Previously, it was the preservation (which will continue), Then the Haffaz (this will also continue), The scientific knowledge ahead of its time (still continuing), Code -19 (discovered in 1974, and still continuing).

    The matter is that you and I can lie to the whole world saying that we are not convinced. But God knows, if inside us, we are or are not e.g. we cannot lie to ourself and to God. So it is really a matter of yielding to the Ego. Its a trial. Don't let the devil win on this one, else you are doomed.

    @Edit:

    In the Quran God states that both the Christians and the Jews, as long as they believe in God and the last day and stay righteous, they have nothing to fear nor to worry.

    However, at the same time, God also mentions in the Quran that "His Mercy" is specific to those (among the people of the book) who will believe and follow the Gentile prophet, whom they find written in their Torah !!  Ref. 7:156 & 157.

    Among the people of the book who fulfill the 7:157 the compensation promised is "Twice".  Ref. 28:52 to 54.

    @Edit:

    1-  I know that the Jews are waiting for the Massiah. But have they not wondered, if the Messiah has already passed.

    2-  What is the basis of Christians. They are forming their beliefs on the gospels of men NOT messenger. So they can be in serious error.

    Remark:  

    I wonder HOW ? the answer to both the questions refutes ???? It is completely illogical to say so !!

    3-  Even if the angel appeared to Mohammad. IT was ONLY Mohammad (among the humans) who knew it. This is MOST CERTAINLY NOT the basis or evidence of Quran.

    The people around Mohammad did NOT believe him, on the basis of fancy stories of heaven and angels.

  4. Yes if they believe in ONE God and believe in the Last Prophet and submit to Allahs commandments and pillars of faith and take shahadah. Yes

    Christians and Jews are not the same as they were back in the day durring Moses and the other Prophets PBUT. And so now all of humanity that believed before are classified as Muslims if they have no problems with what Allah has sent down for them LASTLY.

    Allahu allum. Believe in Allah and his Messengers. Don't put a lie against them. May Allah guide us ALL.

    peace

  5. They are three different types of religion?!!!

  6. no, they don't believe in Muhammad (pbuh) as the last messenger.

    muslims are those who say the shahada. there is no god but allah, and Mohammed is his messenger.

    edit: as the LAST prophet. those were other messengers, and there not muslim. who said that? lol

    moses was a jewish prophet i know that for sure.

    jewish and christians according to islam r true religions. LONG ago, like at the time of those prophets. now we believe they have changed or corrupted and stf like that.

  7. i am a Christian and NOT a muslim. i believe Jesus is the Son of God

    and part of the Holy Trinity, Father , Son and Holy Spirit. Jesus is the awaited Messiah and He will return again one day to collect those that have accepted Him and are therefore His, and He will take them to be in Heaven with Him for all eternity. Jews also, are not muslim,  

  8. they don'y believe that mohammed(PBUH) is the prophet.

    christians believe that jesus is son of god,where as the truth is that god doesn't have a family, no one created god, he is the creator.

  9. No, since all Prophets are Muslims and those who rejected the next Prophet started their own religion.


  10. Not when they don't believe Prophet Muhammad

    (pbuh), as the last messenger..

    And LOL, Did you know Moses, Abraham, David, Solomon(pbut) came BEFORE even Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) was born? How can they believe Prophet Muhammad as the last messenger?when he's not even born yet???

    edit: yes indeed! but Allah swt alone judge/knows of your fate for heaven or h**l. Allah swt knows best.

  11. [2:213] The people used to be one community when GOD sent the prophets as bearers of good news, as well as warners. He sent down with them the scripture, bearing the truth, to judge among the people in their disputes. Ironically, those who received the scripture were the ones who rejected any new scripture, despite clear proofs given to them. This is due to jealousy on their part. GOD guides those who believe to the truth that is disputed by all others, in accordance with His will. GOD guides whoever wills in a straight path

    [3:110] You are the best community ever raised among the people: you advocate righteousness and forbid evil, and you believe in GOD. If the followers of the scripture believed, it would be better for them. Some of them do believe, but the majority of them are wicked

    [3:113] They are not all the same; among the followers of the scripture, there are those who are righteous. They recite GOD's revelations through the night, and they fall prostrate.

    [3:114] They believe in GOD and the Last Day, they advocate righteousness and forbid evil, and they hasten to do righteous works. These are the righteous.

    [3:115] Any good they do will not go unrewarded. GOD is fully aware of the righteous

    submitter MUSLIM could be any one not according to MMM mulla mufti mafia

  12. no because they think hazrat esa aliysalam (Jesus) is Gods son so noo

    and they dont believe in Hazrat Muhammed (saw)

  13. In a word no !

                          They all have very little in common, some bits of the Old Testament , they have that in common.

                             They all believe there is but one God.

    Muslims and Jews believe that Jesus was a Prophet

                              Only Christians believe he was the Son of God. And quite a chunk of those believe he was actually God come to earth as his own Son,  Apparently this would be very easy to do if God was 3 persons in one!!!

                               I don't follow follow your reasoning behind the mention of Old Testament 'prophets'?

                                 They are not very likely to mention Mohammed as a prophet are they? He arrived many years later.Long long time  after the Old Testament was written.

                                   The point to remember here is that Muslims believe that Mohammed was the last prophet, (the final messenger if you like). Not any  Messiah!

    Ditto Jesus , he needed the Old Testament to fulfill him being the Messiah. He didnt fulfill them all though, did he?? And he was not mentioned in the Old Testament, for the same reason, written a very long time before he was born.

                                       As an atheist I believe they were all 'false 'prophets.

                                          How could we have a messenger from a non existant God?

  14. Jews are Jews and Christians are Christians. They can be classified as believers, since they believe in Allah swt. But they don't accept Prophet Muhammad pbuh. And at the same time their whole religion as altered.....they can't be considered muslim b/c they don't believe the same things as us any more unfortunately :(

  15. no

  16. But do not believe in Mohamed as his prophet. So no.

  17. No, they the people of the book, not Muslims.

  18. Well, I'm a proud Jew, so I'd better not be labeled as Muslim, that's for damned sure.

  19. uhhh. no. if you believe in god would that make you a christian or jewish?  

  20. And why exactly should they be classified as Muslims???

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