Can I beat the roulette machines in the bookies this way?

Question

I bet £2 on red, if I win I bet another 2 on red, if I lose I bet double (£4) on black and so fourth doubling when I lose, some time I will get my colour winning back what I lost plus proffit, does anybody know about this system what do you think?

It's just for a bit of fun...

Answer 1

its one of the oldest progression betting systems, called the martingale. As long as its for fun you can just cap the number of double ups to ensure your never betting more than you are comfortable losing. e.g, only double up to $10 or $20.

Answer 2

Could work in the short term... try it with an amunt you can afford (£20 maybe?) and see how it goes... just remember it's a gamble and enjoy yourself whether you win or lose...

Good Luck!!

Answer 3

At first glance it looks like this system might work. The problem is that very quickly the doubling makes the bet you'd have to make larger than the maximum bet on the table, eg. if you start off betting one pound, it only takes 10 losses to get to 1024 pounds, either too much for you to afford (remembering that you've lost 512, 256, 128, 64... on the way) or higher than the tables maximum bet. The other problem is that it's not a 50/50 chance of winning if you bet on a colour in roulette. There's the 0 as well as the reds and blacks. This is how the casinos guarantee their profit on roulette.

The other problem is that you don't win back all that much. For eg. start betting at 1 pound, lose five times then win. You bet

1+2+4+8+16 = 31 pounds.

you then bet 32 pounds and win back 64. You've made a profit of 1 pound on a stake of 63 pounds. You only ever make a maximum one pound profit on each sequence of bets and that's only if you don't hit the maximum bet for the table or run out of money.

Your best bet to beat the casino is to learn to count cards really well and not get caught. Good luck. Personally I value my limbs. :-)

Answer 4

The game of roulette has been around for close to 200 years.  If there were an obvious method of beating the game, it would not have survived that long.  Casinos would have dumped it or changed the rules.

The system you are talking about is essentially what is known as the martingale system.  And basically, it doesn't work.

You bet £2, and then double if you lose, you go to £4, £8, £16, £32, £64, £128 etc.

I haven't seen the roulette machines in UK bookies, because they didn't have them when I lived there.  But I'm guessing there is an upper limit on what you can bet.  This would certainly put a dent in the strategy.  Also if you are unlucky enough to lose five times in a row, you have just dumped £126.  Now you are going to have to bet £128, if that is even allowed.  If you do bet that and win, you are pretty much back where you started.  But if you lose, you are now down over £250.

The problem with this system is that you stand to win a small amount, but if you get unlucky and hit a bad patch, you can lose a bunch of money.  So it's just not a good idea.

Answer 5

That's called a Martindale.  Basically you're betting on an even chance and doubling your stake every time you get it wrong.

There are two reasons why it doesn't work.  First you need an infinite amount of money and casinos usually have a maximum stake.  If you get it wrong 20 times, your next bet would need to be £2,097,152.   Second, if zero comes up all the "even chances" are lost weighting the wheel in the house's favour so you wouldn't win even with an infinite amount of money.

Answer 6

livinng in vegas and loving toplay rouletten i see people doing this all too frequently. It can come black 8 times in a row and they think it just has to come up red.   NO Its still 50 50 my friend a little less actually because of the zeros

Answer 7

my advice is stay away that system will not work on machines. i study electronic engineering and studyed systems. which is used to program any machine like robots and so on. i have written a e-book on those machines. any way i will tell you these machines are programed to take your money and give u littel depending on frequence of payment machine makes. one machine can be set by the machine owner to pay leavels. little money more frequence pay, middle money and frequence pay, take high money and less frequent pay with high pay out. looking at that system if you want on empty machine all type of payment will bet you because no machine is set to pay more then put in. you will neaver dubble your money. and if you found a machine some one being playing on and they won no money. that machine will be set on take big money and pay percent of the money after set value. the machine could be set to take 1000 and pay house 250 and give out 750 when 1000 target hit. some rulette computer machines are set to give very littel. when the machine is loaded it say 100% random it dose not mean its 100% random to pay out. 100% it means the fetures on the machine is random. if you do not understand any thing about vhdl software or RGN. random genrater number you will not understand. you know some companies hold price draws at the end of year or every month. this is because the have to pay percentige out it can be in any form. casino's a rigged too. if you like to know more about machines e-mail me.

Answer 8

The gamblers fallacy states that no type of betting system can turn an unfair game into a profitable enterprise.  What you are referring to is a "Martingale" betting system, and has been mathematically proven to not work!  Eventually you will have to bet more money than you have access to in order to cover your losses, and at that point you will lose a LOT of money.

Answer 9

At some point you will reach the betting limit

The gain fairly small compared to the risk of losing a large amount

Answer 10

This is an old argument with an obvious flaw, but I will leave it to you to work out what it is.

Clue;  Do casino's make profits?

Answer 11

No is the short answer.  Firstly the zero is neither red or black so it eats away at the seeming 50:50 odds.  Secondly if you hit a losing streak the stakes go up exponentially and you could easily reach a point where you can't afford the bet.

You might keep going for a long time, and even walk away with a profit, but it would be by luck, not because you're a statistical genius.